Need some Help with a an S+ Red, White, and Blue, From Trump Casio.

[Ejohns10]

I first wanted to say thank you for all the useful information provided on this site. Until 3 days ago I knew nothing about slot machines, other than my wife likes to feed them more than the kids.....

I decided to purchase a slot machine a few days ago and started a search on Craigslist. I found a Red, White, Blue machine that was from one of trumps casinos in AC. Here is what I know about the machine so far.


IGT
Model B5033dFW
DOM: 2/96
Serial Number 751951
SP932
SS3670.


When I purchased the machine I noticed when powered up their was a 21 codes. From doing my research I figured out the error. and hoped this would be the only reason the machine did not work.
I brought it home, cleaned it out. Found 5 dollars in quarters hidden in and around every opening. After that, I cleaned it up, turned in on and had the 21 code. I messed with the comparitor, checked the leads, (24V) wiggled all the connections and finally received a 3100 code. At this point I removed the hopper, cleaned everything in and around their and reinstalled. I cycled through the self test modes that i found online  and after playing around with everything for about 2 hours the machine ended up coming on and working fine. It would accept coins, dispense coins, etc. etc. So the only thing not working was the bill validator (DBV-200-BO23) Sticker from JCM say DBV-200-ss, ID 022/023, V 2.33-04-03 (b37b). So in the mean time, I found some information on how to check to see if the validator is working correctly. But somehow I think I changed a bunch of the options in the menu and now the machine is not working. It will cycle up, spin, insert coin light works, but when I feed it, they fall right through. I am almost positive I changed some sort of setting and the machine now does not accept coins. The only other problem I had was the optics on the door seemed to be a little sketchy at first, but when I tested them it shows it was working.




So, I am here asking for your expertise on:


Where can I find the PSR for the SP932. I have not problem becoming a contributing member, but I am not sure how that gets me access to the downloads section. If anyone has access to that for me, I would greatly appreciate it.


What machine do I have exactly. I know it is a s+ Reel, but is thier something more specific to call it?


Bill Validator starts up fine and cycles, lights are on, both on the side and inside(assuming optical eye for checking bill) What Chip do I need to reset this? Will this unit read newer currency, Can it be upgraded easily?


Can someone please send me the manual for Self test, and programmable features so I can figure out how to get it to accept coins again?


Finally, Is their a safe way to reset the machine, so I can undo any of the "changes I may of made" without going all the way to the beginning and needing a chip to get it back up and running.


Once again, thanks in advance. In the few short hours I started working on this, I realized just how much knowledge you guys have, and hope you can help me out. Thank you!!

[shortrackskater]

 

First I will commend you on your research! You've done a great job. So... hang on! Help is on its way. Just for fun, can you post  pictures of the machine. One outside and shots of the inside (inside shot but get the door too).

[mustangjeep]

For manuals and all the good download stuff up in the blue colored links there's one labeled "NLG FILE SYSTEM" click that link and search for the manual you need.

I'm not an IGT guy but there are lots on here, I'm sure they'll help ya out.

Good luck,

Bud

[rokgpsman]

Congratulations on your slot machine purchase!

So that everyone interested can be sure exactly what you have it is very helpful if you'll post a few photos. Otherwise there will be a lot of time spent asking questions that photos easily answer. The easier you make it for people here to help the more help you'll get. Posting pictures is easy, when you are typing in a new comment message just look right below the comment input box, you'll see a place to click for "Attachments and other options". Click on it and follow the prompts to attach. You can attach several photos to one comment message.

Post well-lit photos of the entire front of the machine with it powered up. Also a photo of the nameplate, it is usually on the side where the pull-handle is. Then photos showing the inside of the machine with the front door wide open. And a photo or two of the parts on the inside of main door.

The good news that you had it working 99% at one time, so I'd think the machine doesn't have any major problems. You have to be careful changing any settings unless you know the effect. I agree that you may have changed something by mistake that is causing the current problem, but we'll have to see what the IGT experts here advise.

I think there are some PSR's in the NLG library, I didn't see SP932, but there is also a way to request them and someone that has it will provide. I'm not an IGT expert so I could have missed something.

Your DBV-200 bill validator is a popular model from that time period and is still used in many machines today. But it has been replaced with newer systems and JCM stopped supporting it or releasing software updates years ago. The DBV contains software that lets it recognize and accept US paper money. As you know the US switched all their bills to a newer design, except for the $1 bill. So your DBV may not work with some of these new bills in circulation now. The JCM software for your DBV did get several newer releases after yours, so you could load the newest software in order to get the most out of your BDV-200. The last s/w release for your DBV-200 was called ver 2.61-04-03. The process to update the DBV software depends on whether it has an eprom or flash rom inside. If you remove the DBV-200 head unit from the machine you can turn it over and look on the bottom thru an opening to see what type of rom it has. If there is a flat ic soldered to the circuit board that is a flash rom and you'd need special setup to reprogram it with new software. If the rom is a standard DIP eprom in a socket the software update is much easier and many hobbyists with an eprom burner can help you with that, provided you locate the newer software you want to load. And there are slot dealers/businesses that can update the software for you and they usually have the software updates on file. Some will want you to send in the DBV head, others will ship the replacement eprom to you to install yourself. You can sometimes find the update eprom on ebay, just have to make sure you get the right one for your machine.


In the meantime you can always use a $1 bill for testing, since it hasn't changed like the other bills have. I think the $20 bill was changed long enough ago that it might work also, you'd just have to try different bills after getting the machine working. But the $1 should always work so it is best to use when testing.

[Shaggy]

Maybe we can get the moderator to move this to the S+ forum.  Welcome to NLG.


Dave


Done - shortrackskater   

[Ejohns10]

Sure can. I just downloaded the manual for my SP932. and the IGT S+ Manual. Well worth becoming a contributing member. Here are the pictures I have on hand. I can get some better ones of the door later. Last night after I got the 3100 code and the 21 code cleared, the machine worked fine until I started playing with the menus.

The other question is what is the Key do that is on top of the MPU board. It has two wires going into a harness, but I cannot figure out why it is there and if it affects the machine at all. 


Thanks again

[Ejohns10]

Yeah, Sorry I tired to find the correct place to post this, but I think I got turned around. Hopefully, I don't piss anyone off this early in the game.

[rokgpsman]

Yeah, Sorry I tired to find the correct place to post this, but I think I got turned around. Hopefully, I don't piss anyone off this early in the game.

Not a problem, a lot of new folks put their first contact message in the General forum. In a lot of cases that is good until it is known for sure which machine you have.

And since we lost dear old Buzz (R.I.P) there's not really anyone to worry about getting too pissed off.
[well, maybe there are still one or two]     

[rokgpsman]

.....
The other question is what is the Key do that is on top of the MPU board. It has two wires going into a harness, but I cannot figure out why it is there and if it affects the machine at all. 

Thanks again

I didn't see that key in the photos, maybe missed it, but sometimes a casino will have a keylock on the mpu so that only authorized people can access it. If the key has a lock mechanism with a cam that prevents the mpu from being removed without the key then that's what it is. The wires connect to a circuit that reports every time the lock is opened. It's a security thing. I don't think it will keep the game from working, but we'll see what others say. If you can post a closeup picture of it they'd know for sure.

[Jim]

since you don't have a clear chip, there isn't anything you could have changed that can't be reversed. underneath the coin comp there is the coin optic board, down in the lower right corner there is a small white push button, if the machine is not in a tilt mode, with the door open, you should be able to press this button and put a credit on the machine, then you should be able to play the machine. if this works then your problem is with the coin comp itself.


Jim

[CVslots]

See where you get with the PSR and the settings. There is a sticky post at the top of the S+ section titled "Settings for Home Users" (or something close to that). Take a look at it, as it sort of tells you how to decipher the menus and the PSR.

(Note: All PSRs are written more or less the same, same format anyway, some just have different options available. The hard part is getting the hang of navigating through the menus based on what is displayed on the machine display.)

[rokgpsman]

Not likely, but did you remove or maybe disturb the sample coin in your coin comparitor?

Check this example below, you should have a coin installed properly, otherwise inserted coins will fall straight thru.

Also, I've circled in yellow the switch that I think Jim is referring to, it may look somewhat different on your machine.

[Ejohns10]

See where you get with the PSR and the settings. There is a sticky post at the top of the S+ section titled "Settings for Hime Users" (or something close to that). Take a look at it, as it sort of tells you how to decipher the menus and the PSR.

(Note: All PSRs are written more or less the same, same format anyway, some just have different options available. The hard part is getting the hang of navigating through the menus based on what is displayed on the machine display.)

I just read through the PSR. I am going to go through and change everything back to the way it should be. I am just wondering why that would cause the machine not to accept coins. If i push the small button to add credits, the machine works fine.

[Ejohns10]

Not likely, but did you remove or maybe disturb the sample coin in your coin comparitor?

Check this example below, you should have a coin installed properly, otherwise inserted coins will fall straight thru.

Also, I've circled in yellow the switch that I think Jim is referring to, it may look somewhat different on your machine.

When I bought the machine, the coin was out. I replaced it after cleaning the area and turned the know all the way down. At that point after a few resets the 21 code went away and the machine was working well. I put a good amount of quarters through it with no problem. I am wondering if the door closed optic is on the fritz, if it was not showing me "closing the door" i assume the machine would not the the comparitor function, right? It seems odd that I could go from running fine, to not working that quickly, unless the machine does not think the main door is being closed.

[Ejohns10]

since you don't have a clear chip, there isn't anything you could have changed that can't be reversed. underneath the coin comp there is the coin optic board, down in the lower right corner there is a small white push button, if the machine is not in a tilt mode, with the door open, you should be able to press this button and put a credit on the machine, then you should be able to play the machine. if this works then your problem is with the coin comp itself.


Jim

Thanks Jim, I am glad to hear i did not blow anything up........yet

[Jim]

there are no settings that you could have changed to make the machine in-operable. your problem is with the coin comp itself or associated wiring. the sensitivity setting should be all the way ccw.  if the machine cycles, the insert coin lamp comes on, and the coins fall to the tray, then I doubt the door optics are the problem, you can test those in the input tests # 13. that would remove all doubt.


Jim

[rokgpsman]

In the lower righthand corner of the coin comparitor itself is a sensitivity adjustment. Most home users set it all the way to least sensitive to prevent nuisance coin rejections. This may not be your problem but is something to be aware of. It is a small screwdriver adjustment, inside a hole in the cc enclosure.

Here's a couple of handy lists of error codes:

http://www.ohiogaming.com/igterrorcodestroubleshooting.htm

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/igtserrorcodes.html

[Ejohns10]

In the lower righthand corner of the coin comparitor itself is a sensitivity adjustment. Most home users set it all the way to least sensitive to prevent nuisance coin rejections. This may not be your problem but is something to be aware of. It is a small screwdriver adjustment, inside a hole in the cc enclosure.

Here's a couple of handy lists of error codes:

http://www.ohiogaming.com/igterrorcodestroubleshooting.htm

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/igtserrorcodes.html

Thanks. Yes I adjusted this down for now just to get it working. Currently I have not Tilt Codes. The only thing keeping the machine from working right now seems to be the coin dropping out to the tray instead of going through the machine. I am going to test the door optics tonight and see if maybe the machine thinks the door is still open. Eveytime the door is open and closed the reels should cycle correct?

[rokgpsman]

...Thanks. Yes I adjusted this down for now just to get it working. Currently I have not Tilt Codes. The only thing keeping the machine from working right now seems to be the coin dropping out to the tray instead of going through the machine. I am going to test the door optics tonight and see if maybe the machine thinks the door is still open. Eveytime the door is open and closed the reels should cycle correct?

yes, reels cycling like that are part of the initialization process. You may also hear the bill validator doing its initialization (or that may only happen on power up, not sure).

Jim is pretty experienced on these machines, I'd reread his postings closely and follow everything he recommended. For now I'd concentrate on the coin comparator and coin optics area. Don't forget about testing with the little white switch on the optics board to make sure the rest of the machine is working ok.

Since the problem seems to be pointing to the coin comparator you can try unplugging and then reattaching its wiring connectors in case there is a flaky connection. The coin optics boards below the coin comparator have a set of optical sensors that sometimes get dirty and cause problems. These boards can be removed and cleaned, not too hard to do. And you can double-check that you have the sample coin inserted into the groove on its left side and that the sliding cover screw is tightened enough for the cc to get a good reading from the sample coin. Are you using a normal US quarter for your sample coin, or a token? If a token then all tokens used for play will need to be the same.
 

[Ejohns10]

...Thanks. Yes I adjusted this down for now just to get it working. Currently I have not Tilt Codes. The only thing keeping the machine from working right now seems to be the coin dropping out to the tray instead of going through the machine. I am going to test the door optics tonight and see if maybe the machine thinks the door is still open. Eveytime the door is open and closed the reels should cycle correct?

yes, reels cycling like that are part of the initialization process. You may also hear the bill validator doing its initialization (or that may only happen on power up, not sure).

Jim is pretty experienced on these machines, I'd reread his postings closely and follow everything he recommended. For now I'd concentrate on the coin comparator and coin optics area. Don't forget about testing with the little white switch on the optics board to make sure the rest of the machine is working ok.

Since the problem seems to be pointing to the coin comparator you can try unplugging and then reattaching its wiring connectors in case there is a flaky connection. The coin optics boards below the coin comparator have a set of optical sensors that sometimes get dirty and cause problems. These boards can be removed and cleaned, not too hard to do. And you can double-check that you have the sample coin inserted into the groove on its left side and that the sliding cover screw is tightened enough for the cc to get a good reading from the sample coin. Are you using a normal US quarter for your sample coin, or a token? If a token then all tokens used for play will need to be the same.

I agree with both you and Jim. I just went through his posts again.  I will focus on the CC tonight. I am using a quarter and will check on the connections. Since I am not getting a tilt code for coin optics, I wonder if the problem lies in the way the coin is seated. Maybe from opening and closing the door so much when testing the thing, something shook out of place.  I will run the tests tonight on optics and let you know what I come up with. Thanks again for the help.