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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2023, 11:47:43 AM »
they plugged one of the depth 5 slots (BAR) and the depth 6 slot (7) on reel 1.  Ya'd think people would notice reel 1 never stopped on a 7 :-)

don't worry about the discs saying they went with 25c machines.  The entry in the paperwork is the first use of the disc/tape.  The same ones were used on other games with different denominations ... and different model machines also.

for example, the p-684-320 index disc was used on the 1114-1 machine, which was a dollar game.

my master list is incomplete.  Bally made more machines after the copy I have was obtained from bally by phil anderson in nevada, so a 1114 entry showing the discs/tapes you have could have been added later - or your serial plate is swapped on or the game is a mashup of parts.  Doesn't really matter as long as the game pays the number of coins the glass says you should get.

while I have the definition for a p-684-435, my master list doesn't have an entry for a machine using it.  However, another doc I have shows it used on the 1114-18 using the code in the definition sheet, so the first time it was used was for "caesar's world quarter 3 coin multiplier".   That game used 320, 435 and 322 like you have. 

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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2023, 12:07:55 PM »
With all of the issues with the reels, I have overcome all of them. The meters are a mess, and they are the box type. I need to delve into this issue, I have one Bally for the cash box, the reels are another adventure. I have one part left over, it is a small bracket I need to find out where it belongs.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2023, 12:16:56 PM »
they plugged one of the depth 5 slots (BAR) and the depth 6 slot (7) on reel 1.  Ya'd think people would notice reel 1 never stopped on a 7 :-)

don't worry about the discs saying they went with 25c machines.  The entry in the paperwork is the first use of the disc/tape.  The same ones were used on other games with different denominations ... and different model machines also.

for example, the p-684-320 index disc was used on the 1114-1 machine, which was a dollar game.

my master list is incomplete.  Bally made more machines after the copy I have was obtained from bally by phil anderson in nevada, so a 1114 entry showing the discs/tapes you have could have been added later - or your serial plate is swapped on or the game is a mashup of parts.  Doesn't really matter as long as the game pays the number of coins the glass says you should get.

while I have the definition for a p-684-435, my master list doesn't have an entry for a machine using it.  However, another doc I have shows it used on the 1114-18 using the code in the definition sheet, so the first time it was used was for "caesar's world quarter 3 coin multiplier".   That game used 320, 435 and 322 like you have.

I don't think it's a Frankenstein monster, everything else is checking out to be the $1.00 machine, no wires are butchered, so I am going forward with the $1.00 machine idea. The reel mechanism was really jacked up, I still have some more work to be done. Right now everything is cleaned, the wiring is perfect, the switches are clean. I still need the meters, and a couple of missing parts.
 
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2023, 04:08:40 PM »
I've moved on to the door. After disassembled I should have a  :frosty_beer:. It's really not great, seems that I have been hitting a bunch of roadblocks on this machine. It's going to take a lot to get it back to factory.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2023, 05:20:20 PM »
what's wrong with it?  Nice pic of the scavenger coil system.

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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2023, 07:03:26 PM »
what's wrong with it?  Nice pic of the scavenger coil system.

Wiring, reel glass, bulbs, broken parts,  etc. I need to check out the micro switches, they are probably stuck from the hardened grease.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2023, 08:52:21 PM »
I've got most of the reel assembly straightened out. The actual reels are incorrect and I am trying desperately to locate the correct ones.
 UPDATE After communicating with Wolftalk, I am going to wait until I can diagnose the reels payout system.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2023, 06:29:48 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2023, 07:50:44 AM »
Just a heads up, if you really want to do a good restoration, remove all of the black tape from all of the wires, you might be surprised to see some butchered wires. I remove the black tape from these projects and find cut wires that I have to replace. Less black tape is the goal here.

The reels had black tape that hid a splice, I replaced the spliced wiring, removed all of the black tape from the rest of the wiring, then after checking the wiring I used a minimum of black tape.
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2023, 05:19:45 PM »
Working on the door wiring and things are looking good. Some issues are easy peasy, and then I have this meter to figure out if it is functional.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2023, 07:21:46 PM »
I've been dismantling the door and found a token stuck in a place that wasn't accessible unless you took the door completely apart. I doubt that this was ever used as a quarter slot. The other sign is the old coin switch is set up for the dollar coin and not a quarter. :applause:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2023, 09:45:53 AM »
Seems like I am jumping around on different projects on this slot machine.

The cabinet was a disaster, before anyone  :fryingpan: me, Alaska has very little supply of Bally EM slot machines. I am working on a cabinet that was in 5 pieces, a real POS.  :Slap:

These people here in Alaska have plenty of junk slot machines from China and they think they are valuable.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2023, 04:44:19 PM »
Ok, were getting the cabinet completed. It's really important to get the major parts back in, plus the door, then I can clean up the shop.  :yes:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 basket case restoration
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2023, 04:48:24 PM »
The cabinet in the process of restoration.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2023, 09:36:35 AM »
Getting the cabinet together.  :drool04:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2023, 04:20:05 PM »
More work on the machine.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2023, 04:21:55 PM »
More restoration.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2023, 04:22:53 PM »
More restoration.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2023, 04:32:50 PM »
The really awesome feature is the machine has plugs throughout the inside, this makes the restoration easier. I still have so much more work to perform on restoring the machine.
BTW: KLAR box arrived and honestly I am to tired to open it.  :zzzz:
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2023, 02:05:53 PM »
More work, trudging along. Thankfully no  :WeirdEyes: worked on this before. The only issues with this old slot machine, is some of the switches are bent, so I have to examine, clean and repair all of them.

Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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