Author Topic: Bally 1114 full restoration (Read 27884 times)

David Walz · « **Reply #40 on:** August 04, 2023, 02:13:58 PM »

More photos.

David Walz · « **Reply #41 on:** August 04, 2023, 02:31:11 PM »

KLAR sent me an awesome hopper in the mail, it's really great. The hopper is in really great shape, this is a good builder.

David Walz · « **Reply #42 on:** August 04, 2023, 02:48:43 PM »

On to the hopper wiring.

David Walz · « **Reply #43 on:** August 04, 2023, 02:57:38 PM »

I think the pay out is adjusted correctly.

David Walz · « **Reply #44 on:** August 04, 2023, 08:41:07 PM »

The hopper plug and wiring. I used the factory colors.

David Walz · « **Reply #45 on:** August 04, 2023, 08:44:38 PM »

The reel glass was damaged, (upper photo) due to the steel plate resting on it. I adjusted the plate so it would not damage the one I ordered. The one I ordered from Monti's Shop (photo below) is in excellent condition.

David Walz · « **Reply #46 on:** August 05, 2023, 08:51:29 AM »

Quote from: wolftalk on July 30, 2023, 11:47:43 AM

they plugged one of the depth 5 slots (BAR) and the depth 6 slot (7) on reel 1. Ya'd think people would notice reel 1 never stopped on a 7 :-)

don't worry about the discs saying they went with 25c machines. The entry in the paperwork is the first use of the disc/tape. The same ones were used on other games with different denominations ... and different model machines also.

for example, the p-684-320 index disc was used on the 1114-1 machine, which was a dollar game.

my master list is incomplete. Bally made more machines after the copy I have was obtained from bally by phil anderson in nevada, so a 1114 entry showing the discs/tapes you have could have been added later - or your serial plate is swapped on or the game is a mashup of parts. Doesn't really matter as long as the game pays the number of coins the glass says you should get.

while I have the definition for a p-684-435, my master list doesn't have an entry for a machine using it. However, another doc I have shows it used on the 1114-18 using the code in the definition sheet, so the first time it was used was for "caesar's world quarter 3 coin multiplier". That game used 320, 435 and 322 like you have.

Getting closer to assembly of the hopper.

David Walz · « **Reply #47 on:** August 05, 2023, 03:18:29 PM »

Hopper assembly. A lot of moving parts: switches, wiring, springs, you name it.
Good news, the motor is a runner.

Klar for the jump start.

David Walz · « **Reply #48 on:** August 05, 2023, 03:19:39 PM »

More hopper builder.

David Walz · « **Reply #49 on:** August 05, 2023, 03:21:14 PM »

Now I need to figure out which one is for this hopper.

David Walz · « **Reply #50 on:** August 06, 2023, 03:54:07 PM »

Working by on the hopper. I scrounged around and found some plates for the plug, springs, correct screws and other stuff I have squirrel away.
I found a plastic hub for the outside pull handle, I am dwindling my parts bin.

David Walz · « **Reply #51 on:** August 06, 2023, 04:38:09 PM »

Working on the wiring for the PULSE SWITCHES.

David Walz · « **Reply #52 on:** August 07, 2023, 09:40:50 AM »

This is really great when you have another hopper as a reference. I checked the wiring to be double sure its correct. The plug is exact wiring colors.

David Walz · « **Reply #53 on:** August 07, 2023, 04:23:32 PM »

I am double checking the wiring, and it is identical to my other hopper. Everything matches up with the wiring diagram. This makes my work much easier, this is my second hopper builder. I need to get more parts to finish up the hopper. At least this hopper has more room for the wiring than some of the other hoppers.

David Walz · « **Reply #54 on:** August 07, 2023, 08:35:55 PM »

I'm still trying to figure out the hopper cut off plug. Which one is used for the 1114.

This one is from my 1090 model hopper, the hopper is identical to the 1114 wiring, but does the same plug fit both of them.

David Walz · « **Reply #55 on:** August 08, 2023, 08:57:18 AM »

Well, it's been interesting, I really benefited from the other hopper I have as a reference. It was a treasure hunt for my capacitors and resistors, I have only one wire wound resistor that I have ordered.

I need a cover for the hopper, and a shorter scoop extender. Both are extremely minor when building the hopper, I am so thankful for KLAR for the CLEAN hopper builder.

David Walz · « **Reply #56 on:** August 09, 2023, 07:05:48 AM »

I think I have the relay issue at hand.

After losing a few brain cells this is what I came up with, using some spec charts, and other material.

wolftalk · « **Reply #57 on:** August 09, 2023, 10:57:10 AM »

hopper cutoff wiring that is visible in the pic looks ok.

where is the 1N4004 (or 1N4007) diode? Your drawing shows 2 resistors?

verify the cap is installed the right way ... the minus end should be attached to wire 70. Unfortunately, there's no standard that says the crimp in the can is at the plus or minus end of a radial cap, so you have to look at the markings on the can.

David Walz · « **Reply #58 on:** August 09, 2023, 03:22:28 PM »

Quote from: wolftalk on August 09, 2023, 10:57:10 AM

hopper cutoff wiring that is visible in the pic looks ok.

where is the 1N4004 (or 1N4007) diode? Your drawing shows 2 resistors?

verify the cap is installed the right way ... the minus end should be attached to wire 70. Unfortunately, there's no standard that says the crimp in the can is at the plus or minus end of a radial cap, so you have to look at the markings on the can.

Capacitor cap is ok.
Diode, I got confused. I will correct it.

See, I really need help sometimes.

David Walz · « **Reply #59 on:** August 09, 2023, 03:26:37 PM »

Monti's slot has done it again.

Received the new old stock reel glass today.

I received the hub/cap for the pull handle, and the reel parts.

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