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Author Topic: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting  (Read 29788 times)

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2016, 07:04:23 PM »
the armature is what holds the arm up so they handle machine will not go in till the solenoid is activated

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2016, 07:11:48 PM »
Setting the handle to home position i can pull it down to engage the reel mechanism with the power turned off. Whatever stopper the solenoid was attracting has been removed i suspect?

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2016, 07:25:40 PM »
on the diagram you posted from the manual part number 22 is hold in the up pecision on the very most forword part of it what is up there's a wall lever coming off of the you have a machine that catches it and stops it from allowing to handle be pulled if you look at the picture I posted off the handle really cylinoide it shows it in the opposition if you like I will go out to the shop release the cylinoide and take a picture of the doubt position maybe I can look tomorrow my missions and take a picture of them in the dell position and show you the difference

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2016, 07:29:28 PM »
imposition with no coin added handle lock

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2016, 07:30:30 PM »
n position one coin


voice recognition software sucks

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2016, 07:32:05 PM »
Pic 2

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2016, 07:41:27 PM »
Hrmmmm. Part 22 is engaged, I can see the stopper arm you are referring to and it's in the "locked" position, lifting it up doesn't make any difference. I can still pull the handle regardless of that being in locked position. I suspect something further inside the handle mech has been removed. I will post some photos shortly once i open it up.

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2016, 07:43:15 PM »
be very careful it will fall apart on you there are a lot of springs and parts in the handle machine you need to take it off to open it up

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2016, 07:46:54 PM »
OK so with that stopper in the position as per your photo I can pull the arm down.
Arm pulled 1/2 of distance:




The part circled in red in the below photo is what lifts part 22 about 1/2 way through the arm stroke. Not the solenoid...?

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2016, 08:02:29 PM »
yes that is about right if you hold that arm up with the machine plugged in and everything installed check and see if the insert coin  light comes on

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2016, 08:05:16 PM »
Thanks for the reply.
Having only ever worked on Aristocrat machines in the past, I was expecting it was a lockout solenoid on the handle mech that should have been stopping it from being pulled...

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2016, 08:12:34 PM »
What stopped people from walking along and pulling the handle if they hadn't inserted a coin?
Would it still spin but just not payout?

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016, 08:16:30 PM »
when lever 22 is up the handle should not pull far enough to release the reels

you may need to oil the handle machine so it functions properly if they have had it on free play too long it could be gummed up

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2016, 08:24:29 PM »
It appears the the handle lock out / release has been bypassed. Thus the handle can be pulled anytime.
Will be able to send more information tomorrow.

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2016, 08:26:28 PM »
hey david I haven't had time to go to storage and dig out that piece of glass for your 809 yet sorry I'll get there this week maybe

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2016, 08:26:51 PM »
Thanks David, that would really help me out right now.

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2016, 09:07:55 PM »
Thanks John,


As I mentioned in the phone message. The 809 reels and the mechanism are a match set. Completed the "Plums" circuit from the reels beau plug to the payout step up unit payout board and it works perfect. Just need to do the rest. The only other problem is the hopper runs on cherries, but no payout as the wiring is not complete to the step up yet. Somehow the hopper motor is getting power when the 1st cherry stops on the pay line. Going to isolate the wipers from the wiper fingers to see what happens and go from there.
May start a new topic to get a little help on the cherry / hopper situation.


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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2016, 09:15:56 PM »
Daniel,[/size]Yes, I have a couple of machines similar to yours. Both Bally's, one is a 1088 and the other is 1090 quarter machines. Tomorrow I will be able to compare your photos to how it is suppose to be. Will send photos to help. In the meantime try lifting the handle release armature part #22 and push the vertical lever that goes into the handle mechanism to the back of the machine. This should cause the handle to be locked out. Now try pulling the handle.Dave

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2016, 03:35:28 AM »
Spot on David, if i lift the handle release armature manually (part #22) and do nothing more the handle mechanism is now locked. It appears that vertical lever is what is stopping the mechanism from moving when armature 22 is lifted.

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Re: Bally 1071-3 Troubleshooting
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2016, 11:21:03 AM »
the post office is closed tomorrow will mail it out on Tuesday morning if that works for you

 

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