how do you tell what model I have?

[rapidroy]

the numbers on the side are model # 96404900 it is a slant top. so how does one tell if its a PE or PE+ or is it something else?

[rickhunter]

Post a picture of your MPU board, that's the easier way to tell.  The cabinet is the same in both cases, and most Player's Edge cabinets were upgraded to PE+ games.  Typically the PE+ games were multi-games with better sound/graphics.

[knagl]

PE's didn't have bill validators.  As such...


You have an IGT Player's Edge Plus (PE+) slant top video poker machine.  If you do indeed have a multi-poker game installed, you have a superboard MPU board.


If you see the following screen on boot-up, you have a (pretty rare) wingboard installed that allows you (with some limitation) to pick the five games available in the multi-game menu:


Image credit: stolistic

[rickhunter]

Totally forgot about the non-support of dbv's as in the original S slots, as they were contemporary platforms from IGT.

[rapidroy]

I've never seen this game on, I got it and the video board is bad so I'm hoping once I get the Ceronix 1492 VB it will come on. All lights work and the candle is flashing red. but here is a pic of the board, I just wondered what game machine this is as I do a search for a manual.

[rickhunter]

Definitely PE+

[Amechanic]

Aren't the MPU Boards on a PE+ located on the lower left side of the cabinet next to the hoppers, and in a PE they were on the lower section, back wall behind the hoppers? Were the Bill Accepter on a PE+ an external unit mounted on the right side? Reason I ask, is that would explain the extra holes on the side of the one I just picked up..

Gary

[knagl]

Aren't the MPU Boards on a PE+ located on the lower left side of the cabinet next to the hoppers, and in a PE they were on the lower section, back wall behind the hoppers?

Upright?  Slant top?  Bartop?

Upright PE+ machines without embedded bill validators typically had the board mounted along the left side of the cabinet, on the bottom.  Upright PE+ machines with an embedded bill validator had the board mounted in a tray just above the monitor, laying flat.  Slant and bartop machines have them along the wall on the left side, from what I've seen.

Were the Bill Accepter on a PE+ an external unit mounted on the right side? Reason I ask, is that would explain the extra holes on the side of the one I just picked up..

For PE+ (and S+ reel slot) machines that didn't have an embedded bill validator, you could optionally add a side-mounted bill acceptor assembly.  That assembly was designed to mount on the right side of the machine.  Here's a picture of one of those:


Image credit: FORDBS

[Amechanic]

Ok thanks for the history lesson. Mines an upright PE+ with the MPU on the bottom left. That explains the opening inside to the right of the CRT. That's where the internal bill validator would have gone.. My hole patterns not the same as the one shown in your pic, but I guess they were different from machine to machine. Would be nice to have one back on it, but my guess is that the bill validator couldn't be made to work with today's new bills?

Gary

[rapidroy]

before i put the monitor back I would like to verify the voltages of the plug, I'm getting 64v and 54v on the power pins the manual shows 115v on each pin. the main board is in the box on the left side in the picture.

[rickhunter]

Ok thanks for the history lesson. Mines an upright PE+ with the MPU on the bottom left. That explains the opening inside to the right of the CRT. That's where the internal bill validator would have gone.. My hole patterns not the same as the one shown in your pic, but I guess they were different from machine to machine. Would be nice to have one back on it, but my guess is that the bill validator couldn't be made to work with today's new bills?

Gary

The PE+ should work with a WBA using IDO23, same as an S+, the last available update to that platform was a new $5.  So yest you could use every bill except new $100's.

[Amechanic]

Ok great information..   I'll have to see if I can fine the side mounted bill validator.

Gary

[knagl]

My hole patterns not the same as the one shown in your pic, but I guess they were different from machine to machine.

I guess we'd have to see a picture of your machine.  Are the holes near the bottom, or higher up?  Some casinos had externally mounted slot club card acceptors that they'd mount on the right side of the machine, near the top.  The bill validator would typically be mounted so that the bottom of the sidecar thing would be flush with the bottom of the machine.

Would be nice to have one back on it, but my guess is that the bill validator couldn't be made to work with today's new bills?

In addition to what Rick posted, if you're feeling ambitious there's a converter board that would allow you to use a newer bill validator and it converts the protocol to ID022 or ID023 for use with a PE+.  Here are videos of it in action:

ID003 to ID022 protocol converter (JCM UBA + IGT PE+)

SSP to ID022 protocol converter (NV10 + IGT PE+)

http://www.agaslots.com/


(I am not affiliated with the company, nor have I personally tried their products.)

[Amechanic]

Here is a picture of my PE+.. You can see the large hole and 6 small carrage head bolts filling holes where it must have been bolted together switch the bill validator. Also under the machines number there is another large rectangle cut hole.