Bally 809-N

[caneer]

Hello! I recently acquired this slot and I am looking to find out more about it, model/year/value? If there is anything you can tell me that would be great.
I wanted to find a user manual, there are a few functions that are not working correctly that I wanted to try and get fixed. Thank you for your time.

[wolftalk]

809-N is a lightning model made for Kelly's Nugget casino.

the paperwork for it is on https://bingo.cdyn.com/slots/809-N/

generic manuals - which are mostly exploded parts diagrams - https://bingo.cdyn.com/slots/bally_manuals/

there's other stuff if you poke around in https://bingo.cdyn.com/slots/

while the bally 400 manual covers the 809's, the 2400 and 2600 manuals have updated information - especially if you have the newer parts on the right side of the reel mech.

yell if you want info on any specific issues.

btw, if you are in deep enough to access the flourescent tubes, please provide info on what generic part numbers they are (FxTy or whatever it says on the things).

[shortrackskater]

Hello! I recently acquired this slot and I am looking to find out more about it, model/year/value? If there is anything you can tell me that would be great.
I wanted to find a user manual, there are a few functions that are not working correctly that I wanted to try and get fixed. Thank you for your time.

Along with what wolftalk just wrote to you, there is a LOT of information on the Bally on this board. Simply scroll up slightly, add "809" in the search box and change the search area to "this board." 

[Bruce G]

You didn't state the problems the machine is having.  Because these are full of moving mechanical and electrical parts, these can suffer from sticky / dried out oil or grease.  Parts need to be able to move freely, in order for things to work.   These machines are a marriage of electrical and mechanical parts.  Relay contacts need to be clean and correctly adjusted with adequate clearance, contact pressure and  and over-travel.  Buy a GC electronics "contact burnishing blade for cleaning up oxidized / fouled contacts.  Never use any form of sand paper on delicate electrical contacts.  The hopper also contains moving mechanical electrical components that are prone to becoming gummed up.   Check inside the top box, as there may be steppers in there - and those require service as well.  The "Jones " plugs on the mechanism, hopper, stepper must be clean and carefully aligned.  If not making good contact on all of the pins - some or all features of a game won't work.  I use 100% synthetic electric motor oil on these.  No detergents in the oil.  You can use sewing machine oil, or 3 in 1 electric motor oil in the blue bottle.  Do not use 3 In 1 in the red and black bottle, as it contains waxes that will gum up.     

[caneer]

The winner paid light stopped working I am thinking it’s a loose wire. The service button doesn’t work, not sure if it’s the switch or the wiring. The bell makes a buzz if I pull the handle too soon. I am not sure if it’s supposed to ring when ring when I hit any payout or just the jackpot. I hit a jackpot and there was no ringing.

[Bruce G]

The bell is supposed to only ring on jackpots

Are you certain the buzz you are hearing is coming from the bell?  The handle is locked by a solenoid, and it may be that - which you are actually hearing

[caneer]

Yes it is the solenoid.  Do you know when the bell is suppose to sound? on all pays or just jackpot?

[wolftalk]

Do you know when the bell is suppose to sound? on all pays or just jackpot?

that was one of the differences between the various 809 models.  Different customers wanted more or less noise.

you have a common problem ... your model/serial number plate says 809-N, but you have a service button on the door.  The 809-N did not have a service button (according to the schematic).   You could have anything from a replacement door bezel to it being a different machine with the serial number plate swapped on.

the service button would just turn on a lamp on the light tower poking up from the top of the machine.   If your door button is wired, look at the wire colors and look for a terminal block in the top compartment where the wires from the tower attach.  See if you can figure out the wiring based on the colors, or if necessary use a meter to verify.

an 809-N rang the bell on a 777 or whenever the bar jackpot relay powers.  The bar jackpot relay powers when you have three matching bar symbols.

the bell actually would stay ringing as long as the reels stayed on matching symbols, so if the player walked away, eventually I assume someone had to come by and shoot the machine to shut it up ... or at least drop in a coin to disconnect the pay circuit.   

most machines would only ring the bell for the duration of the payout for non-jackpot wins - it would be easy to change the behavior of the 809-N to that mode by changing a wire on a bar jackpot relay switch.
 
you can test the circuits with jumper wires or a voltmeter.  Have a preference?  You usually need a couple jumper wires (alligator clip test leads) when using the meter since you often want to check voltages with the units inside the machine, so clipping the lead onto something and hanging the other end out the front to attach to the meter is the easiest way to check voltages.

[caneer]

Thank you, I will track those wires and see what I can find.

[rdaniel]

It looks like the reel glass is for an 808 model, since it says play 1 or 2 coins.