809 3 Quarter paying double with 3rd coin ONLY

[DavidLee]

Possibly picking up voltage from another source. I.e. contacts that are suppose to be open are closed or a wire is crossed with another. Just a thought.

[Amechanic]

Did you smell smoke before you built the extention cables? It would take only one wire crossed to cause a problem. If you didn’t notice there are numbers on each the male and female plugs to indicate the proper mated connection. I’m not saying you did anything wrong, just asking a question.

[Samman]

Did you smell smoke before you built the extention cables? It would take only one wire crossed to cause a problem. If you didn’t notice there are numbers on each the male and female plugs to indicate the proper mated connection. I’m not saying you did anything wrong, just asking a question.

I checked carefully. I don’t think it would work perfectly with one and two coins if a wire were crossed. Advances properly to 3x wheel as well. All lights work properly on front to correspond with coin in. Plus, the payout issue was the same with the unit in the machine without the extension cable in play. Smoke was minimal, but noticeable with the unit out. Don’t think it would have been detected with unit in machine. Wasn’t THAT much smoke.

[Amechanic]

Just something I’ve been wondering..  Anytime I’ve ever seen a EM show smoke, was a burnt coil or over heated , melting wiring.  I guess it could happen to a wiper board if it had a bad connection, or one failing to advance and getting hot.

[DavidLee]

Next time you run the machine, compare the heat on the coils that operate the odds count up reels.
Do this carefully with a finger. Probably just need too set up a payout once or twice on 2 coins and then 3 coins.


Try manually advancing the 3 coin odds reel with the machine set in different configurations.
I.E. reels set up for a payout, no payout, small payout etc.
Two ways to set up a payout, 1 hold the clock fan and play the machine. The reels will spin free allowing you to set up a payout, hold the reels then release the clock.
Or play the machine, after the reels stop use a 1/4 dowel rod to push the stop arms back out of the slot.
Move the reel to a payout symbol release the stop arm.

[Samman]

Update: My tech has found burn marks and areas of separation on the circuit board, which may be the cause of my issues. I have contacted Alan at K-Lar slot machines in the hopes that he can come across a new or used board. The serial number on the 3x Multiplier board I need is M.645.129. If anyone has one or knows where I can find one, please let me know. Thank you.

[DavidLee]

Those gaps can be bridge with solder or a conductive type glue.
This would be a temporary fix, but could last a long time.

Check eBay for Bally pinball score reels, photo is one example.
Bought 3 of these somewhere around $20.00 including shipping.

[Amechanic]

Update: My tech has found burn marks and areas of separation on the circuit board, which may be the cause of my issues. I have contacted Alan at K-Lar slot machines in the hopes that he can come across a new or used board. The serial number on the 3x Multiplier board I need is M.645.129. If anyone has one or knows where I can find one, please let me know. Thank you.

Let me know if Alan wasn’t able to help yet. I thought that maybe I had new Odds boards, but the two I have are the ones that end in 120.. I did find what looks like a good used odds assembly, see pics.

[DavidLee]

Gary,
The bottom photo looks like the one he needs.
M-645-129

[Amechanic]

Gary,
The bottom photo looks like the one he needs.
M-645-129

Both pics are of the same odds unit. Just slightly different angle for the parts number.

[DavidLee]

The serial number on the 3x Multiplier board I need is M.645.129.

Quote from post 45.

[Amechanic]

That is the number on the wiper board...

[Samman]

BINGO!!!!


How much??  That's the one I need. Ill take the whole odds unit

[Samman]

That is the number on the wiper board...

Check your private message. I corrected my email. Take out the “is” in front of it. I meant to type my email is ..... and the is got connected.

[Samman]

Hello all. Problem solved! A big thank you goes out to Amechanic for selling me the 3x multiplier board. That was the problem, and all is working fine now on 3rd quarter selection. Thank you to all that responded. I'm learning so much from this forum. Now I have extension cables that I made for future troubleshooting. 

[Amechanic]

Glad I was able to help yea out.

[RiseLikeRa]

I am so glad that things worked out for you.   NLG, and especially the men and women of the EM forum are the best!


Ra