TOP BANANA - 550 - STOPPED WORKING

[GOS]

will try other transport and play around with the software.  I did notice the board that I got from SPIN did have an X on the back (not usually a good sign)

[GOS]

tried another transport/head from a S+ - voila - powered/cycled but did not work.  I contacted SPIN and they are going to send me another BV setup and tested to work in my machine. These guys are great.

[rickhunter]

It's probably that litte serial board PCB with the "X" on it.

[GOS]

NO PROGRESS - replaced the BILL VALIDATOR with a tested unit and the "daughter board"  all provided by SPIN.   BV does NOT cycle.  Game still thinks it has a JCM 145/146 (the initial bv unit had a special daughter board that made it look like a jcm145)  and that unit WORKED prior to game failure mentioned in original post.  To refresh - game was working - power including the bv - POWER SUPPLY replaced - then CPU and IO sent in to SPIN for repair - GAME gamed up BUT no bv - replaced the jcm daughter board mounted to the side of the transport - reconnected wiring on the transport - and that is where we are - everything works EXCEPT the BV.
I can not find how the game recognizes what BV is attached - the clear chip and setup only allows what cc and coin - nothing about the bv.  The diagnostics shows that it thinks it has a JCM145 when in fact it has a wba13
One thing that stands out in the diagnostics (see screen print)  is jumpers?  can there be jumpers on the cpu/io that indicate the BV?

[rickhunter]

I will convert my  machine back to a legacy system this weekend to help you troubleshoot.  If I remember correctly the jumpers were used to set jurisdiction.

[rokgpsman]

The manual mentions that Jumper #1 is for jurisdiction and Jumper #2 is for Bonus setup. It also talks about getting into the Technician Menu System to select which bills you want the machine to accept but I didn't see anything about selecting which type of bill validator is installed or how the machine determines the BV type.

[GOS]

the only thing I can think is that the power supply may be no good?  since the bv transport is not cycling - the connection to the p/s is good - but???

[rickhunter]

Is there a little red light on the side of the transport that indicates it is getting power?  I will do the conversion tonight, and observe the whole dbv procedure then report back.

[GOS]

there are the 2 lights on the bill head that are on.

[rickhunter]

Ok, I finished the conversion.  It is cool to see that #1, everything still works, #2 eprom based games boot really fast!

You in fact, have a newer release of the game than I do.

Ok, so I ran the clear.  The only thing I chose in the clear was the comparitor type and the coin denomination.  The system automatically knew it was USA based on the switches of the I/O board.

After I ran the clear I got a ram clear tilt, which I cleared by pushing reset button (or was it turning the reset key?)  I did both.  I forget which one triggered it.

After  the tilt cleared, got a black screen, then it said loading graphics, at which point the validator cycled (this was the only time it cycled, never during the clear).  The game came up and was ready to play.  I went into the version screen and this is what I got.  At no point did I select the validator type, it just auto-configured it.  I'm also enclosing a photo of the rear RS-232 validator board.

The connection closest to the cabinet wall is the one that goes to the backplane.  Incidentally that harness has a molex pigtail with a pair of wires that plugs right into the PDU for 12v power.  The other molex connected to the RS-232 board goes into the validator plug harness.  I would also note that my validator is a WBA 12.

[GOS]

thank you very much for all you work - the only difference I see is in the wiring going to the rs-232 board -  all the steps you took are exactly what i did regarding the clear and setup. Will load pics of my board and wiring later.

[GOS]

here is my wiring with some extra wires that I don't know where they go.

[GOS]

still no bv - sending ALL my boards to SPIN -  the bv the power supply - the boards including backboard.  The only only question i have is the are wires go to the bv door switch - that need to find where the actually go - there is a black/purple?  black/yellow then a black and a yellow wire. 

[GOS]

took a LONG TIME - thank you to RICKHUNTER for going the extra yard on this one - SPIN - FINALLY!!! - fixed the problem - the IO board again.  Anyway - it's up for sale - I will never recover what I have into in in time and money - but I just don't like giving up.