Author Topic: Solved! Coin-In Error(NOT Coin-In Jam) (Read 4578 times)

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #40 on:** November 09, 2020, 09:58:46 PM »

haha...okay...just disconnect the little 2-pin harness from the BV for now...

Post a picture of the damage to that lil board...

as large as you can post....1000 pixels on one side at the most.

I'd like to be able to zoom in on it.

RB · « **Reply #41 on:** November 09, 2020, 11:07:14 PM »

Quote from: ThirdGenAmusement on November 09, 2020, 09:50:42 PM

I checked the resisters and R2 is internally shorted and I believe this is the problem!!! So I will either get another resister or different board.

I will send you a board or two. Just pay for shipping.

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #42 on:** November 10, 2020, 06:47:11 AM »

Stayouttadabunker - I must have hit a picture upload limit or something due to forum giving me an error of exceeding limits. However, I have included a link to my google pix account and you will be able to see full resolution pics there. I have an arrow pointing to the resister in question. Using my meter this particular resister doesn't offer any resistance so I think that would be a dead short. Thanks again for all your help! Hopefully we didnt set any records for the longest running issue on nlg lol.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/P6ofPocee3sGTtK
RB - Thanks for your continued generosity but another member beat you too it. This is a great group of people!

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #43 on:** November 10, 2020, 07:06:47 AM »

Hmm....the link doesn't work?

oh well...glad members are sending you stuff.

We like helping each other out whenever possible.

This is NLG!

Jim · « **Reply #44 on:** November 10, 2020, 08:58:45 AM »

are you using LEDS in the BV lamp board? you have to pay attention to the type socket you are using, If the LEDS have wrap around leads then the LEDS will short out the components. two different type of sockets, one for incandescent bulb and one for LEDS, or to use one for the other you have to modify the wrap around lead.

Jim

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #45 on:** November 10, 2020, 09:25:48 AM »

Sorry Stayouttadabunker. It may not work unless you have a google pix/photo account. Try this one or I can email them. Pm me your email.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qVPrhKf5KVvruNvv7
Thanks Jim. The sockets and bulbs are for the incandescent but appreciate the thought. I forgot about that!

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #46 on:** November 10, 2020, 09:56:48 AM »

Your BV light circuit board photo is only 654 pixels in length....small enough to go on here.

I'll bet you're not a paying member that's why you are being limited....donate a few bucks to help pay for hosting costs and you'll be able to post all you want and have more space for messages.

Anyway, why do you have a red arrow pointing at that [R2] resistor?

Click on photo to enlarge if needed...it doesn't get much bigger really...>>>

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #47 on:** November 10, 2020, 10:03:05 AM »

Correct though I may have too with all the help i get!!
The red arrow is pointing to the resister in question. I used a multi meter to check resistance of the resisters and the one in the R2 position is open meaning is a short rather than a resistance. So I believe this to be the issue.
Thanks for posting the pic. =)

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #48 on:** November 10, 2020, 10:06:54 AM »

I think you have to un-solder one leg in order to get it out of circuit to get a true reading no?

What are the ring colors of it?

The color saturation setting of your camera is mixing me up on the colors.

By the way, your machine still hasn't errored out yet? No more coin-in error? Been playing it?

Click on photo below to enlarge if needed....>>>

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #49 on:** November 10, 2020, 10:24:42 AM »

Oh nice thanks for the chart! That's handy.

Its really hard to tell the colors but I believe Orange, Orange, Gold, Gold.
You are probably right especially if you are wanting to measure to see if its in tolerance. I am still learning this stuff. lol. I am more proficient with 1935 Mills slot but getting better with newer stuff.

I can always clip a leg or desolder one on this board to verify. May try that this afternoon.

Ash100 · « **Reply #50 on:** November 10, 2020, 04:52:44 PM »

Looks like I'm late to this party, but that's some great troubleshooting and the advice of these members here is priceless!

If that indeed does solve your problem, please let us know.

We've all had to chase a few ghosts and gremlins before, so any solid fix posted in these forums can save someone a lot of time and head scratching.

And welcome to NLG.

Curtis ash100

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #51 on:** November 14, 2020, 12:57:29 PM »

Ok, received some replacement light boards which is very appreciated! However, those too cause the coin-in error. The boards can be hooked up but as soon as a bulb is installed it'll error. So, I am installing #74 incandescent bulbs and have double checked the wires coming from the bulb are not out of place causing a short on the socket.

Is #74 bulbs correct for this bv light board?

therockinelvis · « **Reply #52 on:** November 14, 2020, 01:04:39 PM »

When using LEDs you need to bend the wires to one side. They can't go across the bulbs to both sides

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #53 on:** November 14, 2020, 01:21:34 PM »

Thanks for the reply therockinelvis. I'll definitely keep that in mind. I believe these #74's are incandescent bulbs. The wires coming off the bulb are opposing so one wire lead goes up one side of the spade and one wire lead goes up the other side on opposite sides of the bulb. This is on the long side of the spade of the bulb and not up the skinny side of the spade.

Just checking to see if #74 bulbs will work for this application.

therockinelvis · « **Reply #54 on:** November 14, 2020, 01:39:35 PM »

73 is the correct bulb

DB26 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 14, 2020, 01:42:04 PM »

Quote from: ThirdGenAmusement on November 14, 2020, 12:57:29 PM

Is #74 bulbs correct for this bv light board?

Iâ€™ve used #74s in my light boards for a few months now with no problems.

Here is a quote from RB in the bulb replacement thread:

Quote from: RB on September 24, 2020, 08:04:32 PM

74 is fine. It's the 12v equivalent used in automotive applications.

And here is the full bulb replacement thread:

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4776.0

Ken · « **Reply #56 on:** November 14, 2020, 01:57:37 PM »

The #73 bulb is 1.12W and the #74 is 1.4W. Minor difference.

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #57 on:** November 14, 2020, 02:19:58 PM »

Thanks fellas. I'm going to start checking the voltage and possibly the amperage on my machine. Something isn't right.

ThirdGenAmusement · « **Reply #58 on:** November 28, 2020, 06:27:12 PM »

So after a whole lot of replacing parts and trying to figure this out, I lastly replaced the board for the lights of the bv. I initially put the #74 incandescent bulbs in. One bulb in would work fine but dropped the voltage in the circuit to about 8.5 volts. Put the second light in and it would error out every time.

I finally decided this was a voltage issue and had hoped using led bulbs would draw a minimal amount of voltage to not trip an error so I installed some LEDs I bought off Amazon, and it worked. After installing the LEDs, the slot has been flawless being on for nearly 3 weeks straight running it through various scenarios of bills in, coin in, voucher in, and using credits already in to play without issue. So using LEDs seems to have solved this issue though I'm not convinced this is the correct solution. But it works!

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #59 on:** November 29, 2020, 10:05:36 AM »

I found out an amazing little tidbit with these lamps.
The difference for example between a #74 and a #73 incandescent wedge lamps is very little in amperge draw but more in wattage output...but definitely different brightness and especially lifetimes!!

Check out the difference between these two lamps!.....>>>

#74 Miniature Bulb Glass Wedge Base - 14.0 Volt 0.10 Amp 1.4 Watt T-1-3/4 Sub-Miniature Glass Wedge Base, C-2F Filament Design 0.70 MSCP. 0.80" (20.32mm) Maximum Overall Length, 0.2188" (5.5mm) Maximum Outer Diameter. 0.40" (10.16mm) Light Center Length (LCL). 500 Average Rated Hours.

#73 Miniature Bulb Glass Wedge Base - 14.0 Volt 0.08 Amp 1.12 Watt T-1-3/4 Sub-Miniature Glass Wedge Base, C-2F Filament Design 0.30 MSCP. 0.80" (20.32mm) Maximum Overall Length, 0.2188" (5.5mm) Maximum Outer Diameter. 0.40" (10.16mm) Light Center Length (LCL). 15,000 Average Rated Hours.

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Author Topic: Solved! Coin-In Error(NOT Coin-In Jam) (Read 4578 times)