Is this a Bally 1034

[fgurnee]

I found on a list 1034 Lucky Sevens 1975 3 coins L to R and R to L so thought it may be it.  List didn't say 1 to 3 coins.  Name plate is gone. Thanks. (I got it working!) 

[Nurbo]

Hello,


You're machine look like a 1034, but I already seen them with another top glass : https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4835.0

[fgurnee]

Thanks.  Mine pays out differently but looks like the same machine.

[Pinballwizard55]

That is defineatly not a lucky 7. lucky 7 is a 6 coin machine ,yours from the photo is only 3 coins . i would call it a 3coin left to right. Nice game , have never seen one in an 809 hi boy cabinet. The wizard.

[63mini]

 Pinballwizzard55 is correct. It is not a (Lucky 7).  Attached is a photo of mine 1-6 coin.  They originally had green glass.  Mine has been "blacked out" before I got it.  It also has melons on the pay table and yours does not.  Can you post a photo of the upper part of the cabinet with the glass removed?

[fgurnee]

Thanks.  Here is glass off (not too interesting) and some of stuff behind the light panel.  It's in the same family as yours; seems closer than other stuff I have seen. 

[fgurnee]

This one is called a 1034-471 which seems almost identical to mine except the payouts are slightly different per top glass.   https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4835.msg26984#msg26984

[wolftalk]

is anything written in black ink on the reel wiper boards or the the unit frames?

if not, what are the codes stamped into the slotted metal reel index discs and what is the m-645-xxx number on the payout counter disc.

can't tell from your lamp panel picture, but if the divider bars are flat pieces of wood instead of trapezoids, it's likely someone made it, which would imply it may have been a 1034 originally, but now it's a 3 coin version of one instead of a 6 coin game.  It's easy enough to modify the coin/line unit in the top compartment so it only steps up twice instead of 5 times (reset is 1st coin played, step 1 is second coin, etc.).

[kjnuke]

Looks like it's probably converted.
I have an 809 converted to a 3 coin right to left /left to right.

[fgurnee]

Divider bars are definitely flat pieces of wood and look a little more home made than factory produced.  The payout counter disc has M-645-118 REVISED 5/27/77.  So if it has been converted to 3 coin from 6 why is that done?  Is it just to build a machine with working parts?  Disc code seems to be 68? - 305  Hard to read.

[kjnuke]

I'd look on the reel wiper boards or on the frame somewhere on the inside for the model number in sharpie as wolftalk mentioned.
Usually there will be something there telling you what it originally was.

[wolftalk]

Divider bars are definitely flat pieces of wood and look a little more home made than factory produced.  The payout counter disc has M-645-118 REVISED 5/27/77.  So if it has been converted to 3 coin from 6 why is that done?  Is it just to build a machine with working parts?  Disc code seems to be 68? - 305  Hard to read.

684-305 was used in some 1090 and 1114 machines.  If it was used elsewhere it was after the copy of the bally info I have was made.  The M-645-118 board was not used with those machines as bally had moved on to a more complex board that supported more payouts for the 1090 and 1114 games.

when the games were removed from the casinos, they typically went to companies who refurbished and sold them to smaller or overseas locations.  If a customer wanted a style of game that wasn't available, the refurb companies would make it from whatever they had.  They could make glass if necessary, and the guy I got all the info from had a press that could make any index disc he needed.

you wind up with mashups of pieces that don't match the serial/model number plate, but are more-or-less correctly wired for the type of game it is so a bally schematic would match.  If you can identify the cabinet, usually the schematic for that game applies for most of the machine.  Then a schematic for what the game was turned into can be used for the payout counter, reel wiring and any reel-related relays.

if the donor game doesn't support the payouts you want, it's easy enough to change the payout disc or swap in a different hopper (rewiring the plug if necessary).

the resulting games probably couldn't be legally sold to casinos in nevada or other regulated markets without getting them certified, and that would result in a new serial number.  I think even selling to private individuals required a serial number paper trail, which is why it's common for a serial/model number plate to be moved to machines that don't have the right cabinet style for the model.

none of the 1034s on my incomplete listing used a 22 stop index disc like most of the 1088 and later games did, so your game was either a 1034-19+ or it was assembled from parts.

[fgurnee]

Wow! Thank you for all that information. When I first got it I fixed a couple little things but it’s working just fine and the grandkids are quite happy with it. We got it for free and had no expectations of it being a valuable thing so being a mishmash is just fine. But I was always curious and you have satisfied that more than I could have hoped. Thank you for you time providing all of this.