Author Topic: identification help (Read 1856 times)

Eddieg1349 · « **on:** February 18, 2021, 09:32:32 PM »

I have an IGT video poker machine that I need to identify. the data plate on the side lists the manufacturing date as 03/97 and the model no. as 96403700. Right now it has an error I cannot clear because I need to get a coin comparator for it. but I am not sure what to buy since I do not know exactly what machine it is.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2021, 09:39:17 PM »

Even police have mug shots....go get your camera.

Pictures tell a million words...

RB · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2021, 07:29:05 PM »

If the coin harness connector is a 12 pin it will use a 24Vac comparitor. If it's a 15pin 13Vdc inhibit.

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2021, 12:51:06 PM »

ok this is the photo

Trisail · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2021, 11:08:03 AM »

Looks like a PE+ to me. Has multigame capability according to the bottom glass and multi poker according to the upper glass.

Here is what is needed now -

Picture of the entire inside cabinet with the monitor and board placement. Picture of the entire door with the missing coin comparator. Picture of the MPU board - we can help direct where that is when you get the other 2 pictures posted if needed.

If the MPU board is a super board you will be able to play up to 5 games with the push of a button - multi poker. Else just one game.

Touchscreen - maybe, can't tell from picture. Actually doubtful from what I have seen.

I'm thinking it has been 'changed' from OEM. I don't know for sure as I have only dealt with a few of these and they are all different ( BUT the same )

Someone more knowledgeable could probably let you know which coin comparator to get/use - they are all different ( BUT the same )

( mechanical or optical )

Post more pictures - check the forum out there are many posts dealing with video poker machines PE PE+ and such, even coin comparators for such. When I first started on here after I picked my 1st slot up it took about a day to go through enough posts/searches trying to see if I could do it on my own. Sure did learn a lot, got familiar with the 'slot jargon' and terminology enough to ask the right questions. Enough of my insights. Welcome to the forum, a lot of good people here and they all like to help. Turns out I needed some help from a few of them, couldn't quite figure it out by myself.

Tony

Tilt · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2021, 12:23:02 PM »

It has a PE+ upper glass and a Game King belly glass. So it's either a late model PE+ or a early model Game King. Need interior pics to tell for sure.

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2021, 02:51:14 PM »

Thanks for the advice Tony/Tilt someone told me itâ€™s an IGame

Trisail · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2021, 04:12:53 PM »

Those pictures are great. IGame sounds good. I don't know much about them personally so others can chime in.

The MPU looks like a PE+ super board to me? IGame = PE+ ? It has XPM006 (sic) software so you have some games in there.

The coin comparator is optical and you are missing a board. The hanging 6 pin white connector/cable that looks to be repaired/modified would plug into the missing board. Someone can let you know which one will work in that machine, there are lists of types of comparators in the forum and game types. I've seen mentioned the 2 pin connector with the green wires will get you right comparator. I don't have that information memorized, others will know. That connector and the one next to it will plug into the missing board.

Not sure what is up with the white wire going into the bill validator (BV) from the monitor shelf?

Looks like you have a nice machine and should be able to get it running.

If you have any power supply or other problems after you get the coin comparator going let me/us know we can help.

Your original post says you had an error and needed the coin comparator to get it going. What is the error? Usually the machine would come up with an error(s) and once cleared it should work without the coin comparator. You could insert bills in the BV - if it works - or there should be a test to perform to put credits on the machine for testing.

Tony

Tilt · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2021, 05:23:12 PM »

Yep, it's a PE+ with a "superboard" mpu. You need a CC-16d 24VAC coin comparitor and the wiring harness that goes with it. It looks like someone tried to hack a 13VDC model in it and it obviously didn't work. Hopefully after replacing that you'll be able to get it working.

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2021, 06:43:29 PM »

Thanks. It has a few games on it about 5 I think. All video poker and that white wire is plugged into the bill validator but I think someone spliced it in as a repair it actually runs back behind the monitor shelf. The power supply is good it turns on and all. Just that the light flashes and it wonâ€™t clear. I know the guy that was working on it for me said he had it all going and he was about to call me to come get it the next day. But his grandson was over and stuck something in the comparator coin slot and fried it. Not sure if that is actually what happened. But he is buying me a new one. Itâ€™s a 12 pin plug that runs to that 6 pin connector. As for the tape I am not sure if my uncle did that or if it was like that or what. My uncle had these and had got them going and when he passed my aunt gave them to me. But I couldnâ€™t get them, going. This one had coins stuck under the hopper in all those wires and needed something else. And then I have a another one that had a GK Sha error. And everything I read about that said the eprom was bad. So I found a guy here that is working on them, for me. Problem is he is horrible at communication and works out on a boat. So sometimes he is gone for days. If it isnâ€™t ready soon I am just going to pick that one up and bring it back and try it myself. He is supposed to be installing a wheel of fortune game.

knagl · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2021, 07:23:25 PM »

The first machine in this thread is an IGT PE+ with the wrong belly glass. The PE+ machine is not a touchscreen game.

The machine in the first two pictures of your most recent post are a Game King. To not muddy the waters here, if you want to discuss your Game King machine please start a separate thread in the Game King section of the forum, here: http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=68.0

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2021, 07:36:34 PM »

Ok thanks I was just trying to show the errors I have the pe+. The light keeps flashing (lower light) but nothing really shows on screen

Tilt · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2021, 10:19:39 AM »

The 6 pin connector isn't wired for a 24VAC comparitor. It looks like it is wired for a 13VDC model. So even if you get the right one it won't work until you get the correct wiring to it, in fact, the wiring may damage the new one.

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2021, 10:41:08 AM »

Ok so that harness goes back to a 12 pin molex connector. So would I purchase a whole harnes from there forward for a 13vdc model?

Tilt · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2021, 11:34:46 AM »

No, I think the one you have there is wired for 13VDC. You need a comparitor and harness for 24VAC. I think you can probably just replace the cable shown in the picture rather than the whole thing. I've attached a photo of the comparitor and cable from my PE+ machine, the arrows show the harness you can replace. The second photo shows how the wiring for a 24VAC comparitor looks (the photo is from my S+, but is the same as the PE+. I could get a clearer picture of it in my S+ machine).

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2021, 07:14:04 PM »

ok well the comparator that was in it is bad now. the guy that was working on it had it ready for me to pick up and he was just playing with it and going through the games. he left it on and the grandson supposedly stuck a wire in coin slot and burned it out. i am not sure that is what actually happened but he is buying me a new one. if he doesn't get it soon i might just get it myself and then keep the other as a spare.

jay · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2021, 09:43:53 PM »

Regarding the grandson story. I don't buy that story for even a second. The slot machines are pretty industrial and every crook and hack has tried different techniques to cause a fault more for the purpose of cheating than anything else.

Connecting up AC to anything designed for DC ends in smoke. The PE+ uses 24AC and the comparator you have is designed for DC. Its the right size/shape/color but designed for a different machine.
Connect it up to 24DC and poof and the smoke comes out.

The universal rule is that all electronics are powered by smoke and if smoke leaks out then the electronics stops working.

When you get the replacement unit. Ensure it is the right model and that you have the correct wiring harness. You do not want to be a collector of smoke.....

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2021, 10:56:18 PM »

Ok so the green arrow is what actually plugs in to the CC. And the blue arrow is a 12 pin molex plug. I have seen others that are 15 so this machine is supposed to have what exactly because I have heard different things.

Tilt · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2021, 09:13:37 AM »

Where have you seen one that's 15 pin? All of mine have 12 pin and I haven't seen anything other than 12 pin for P/J301 in any IGT drawings.

Eddieg1349 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2021, 10:30:32 PM »

Someone showed me one made as a jumper to bypass the coin comparator. Maybe it was for another machine and I a, getting confused.

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