Author Topic: first timer IGT splus do I need a clear chip ? (Read 24955 times)

leocat168 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:10:06 PM »

when i first changed the battery and went through the motions i got the ding and the 61 -1 closed the door turned the jackpot key once and it went back to the 61... i was only able to get it to go back to the 61-1 once or twice again and i dont know how. i did a lot of open and closing the door and pressing the little white button... i dont see any pinched wires just the little plastic tab that hold the sensor on the machine side looks cracked like it may break off soon... but it doesn't look like that would change the function of the sensor

Shaggy · « **Reply #41 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:12:29 PM »

If you want to try anything, come paint my house.

But seriously, it shows 61, you push the test button (sometimes they don't ding) but it never goes beyond to 61-1? How about some pics of that Mpu board. I'm still suspicious about it. In all honesty there isn't that many things that make an S+ tick. Maybe the clear is still the way to go.

Shaggy · « **Reply #42 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:15:07 PM »

Yeah the optic is maybe not the problem. But did you latch the door all the way before you turned the key? We have to cover all the bases.

leocat168 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:17:42 PM »

I'm actually really good at painting....lol.

Yeah door was all the way in and latched all the way down

Its on 61... and no matter how often i press the little whit button it doesnt seem to go back to 61-1.... I dont know why i'm having trouble uploading the pics keeps sayin fatal error... no luck with anything tonight... i'm gonna keep trying...

leocat168 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:26:38 PM »

pics?

Shaggy · « **Reply #45 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:29:54 PM »

You're a Trouper Dude. Maybe try shutting off the machine and trying again. Don't know if that will work but, they are electronic apparatuses and sometimes they get confused. And don't get frustrated we are here all the time. If I can't get you fixed, we'll find somebody who can.

leocat168 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:31:18 PM »

Thanks,,, I think i will look into ordering the clear chip. how does the chip come off the board? ya just pull on it?

rokgpsman · « **Reply #47 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:37:53 PM »

There are "chip puller" tools but if you are careful a regular screwdriver can be used. Go back and forth from one end of the chip to the other, just prying it up a little at a time. Don't let the tip of the screwdriver scrape the circuit board underneath the chip.

Shaggy · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:42:28 PM »

Well lots of people say to use a chip puller. Easy to order off E-bay etc. I just use a screw driver gently, on both ends and remove it. If you're forcing it you're doing it wrong. Gently will get the job done. When you have run the clear, go to the menu and set all the settings you need. A PSR is probably what you'll need. Let's cross that bridge when you get there................. Mike beat me to it!

Dave

leocat168 · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:43:29 PM »

Thanks. Does it matter which chip i remove and put the clear chip in place of?

rokgpsman · « **Reply #50 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:44:14 PM »

As long as your eprom doesn't end up looking like this you are ok:

Shaggy · « **Reply #51 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:45:21 PM »

Yes that will come with the instructions.

leocat168 · « **Reply #52 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:48:12 PM »

lol.... ok thanks a great deal to you both for taking the time to help... I'm going to see about ordering the clear chip and get back to you when i see where that puts me.. talk soon!!!!

rokgpsman · « **Reply #53 on:** May 01, 2016, 06:58:20 PM »

Quote from: leocat168 on May 01, 2016, 06:43:29 PM

Thanks. Does it matter which chip i remove and put the clear chip in place of?

Yes, it is important to remove the correct eprom (the GAME chip) and install the CLEAR chip in its socket.

Here is how Ohio Gaming says to do it, look down near the bottom of their page:

http://www.ohiogaming.com/replacementinstructions.htm

Ram Clear

63. Ram Clear Procedures are normally done when error codes can not be cleared. Turn Power Off
64. Remove the coin tray and coin hopper.
65. Locate the round handle on the main board that is behind the hopper. Lift the handle straight up to remove the main board from the bottom board. Do not use force; there is a risk of damaging the bottom board if using excessive force.
66. Place the main board on a flat surface and locate the GAME PROM. These are well label on the board.
67. ATTENTION TO DETAIL: There is a notch in each end of the chips. Determine the direction that notch is in relation to the direction the main board. The new chip must be installed in the same direction. If the chip is not installed correctly, there is a high risk of destroying the data needed to operate the game or another function of the machine.
68. Locate the chip clearly marked as the GAME PROM on the main board and using a chip puller (recommended) or a small flat blade screwdriver (not recommended but can be done). Avoid damaging or bending the legs on the chip. If you do you can straighten them out only so many times then risk breaking off a leg.
69. Install the new RAM CLEAR with the notch in the same direction as the one just removed. The notch in the chip must be installed in the same direction. Use caution when installing the chip so that you do not fold over any of the legs on the CHIP.
70. Make sure the legs are matched to the holding socket before installing. If one or more of the legs do bend, it must be straighten before proceeding. Push down on the top of the CHIP firmly until the chip is seated completely into the holding socket. Visually check that all the legs are properly inserted into the holding socket. Even if one leg is not seated into the holding socket, the game will not operate.
72. To re-install the main board, use care and again DO NOT use excessive force, there is a risk of damaging the pins on the bottom board. The board must align on both sides of the tray holder. Firmly push the main board into place. It must be completely seated onto the bottom board. If it doesnâ€™t feel right, it probably isn't. Stop and try again, you will know when it is installed correctly.
73. Turn power on and press the white test switch button once. There will be a set of numbers counting up on the door. Once it is at "2 999". Turn power off and replace the original GAME PROM and follow the error code list.

Good luck!
hope that clears up your error 61 problem.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #54 on:** May 01, 2016, 07:11:51 PM »

Also, Ohio Gaming offers this advice when trying to get rid of an error 61. After turning the reset key you need to ensure you wait several seconds before doing anything else. (they say it can take a full 8 seconds). And when you press the self test button you need to hold it in long enough to have effect. Sometimes people release it too soon. See the notes and instructions for error 61 here:

http://www.ohiogaming.com/igterrorcodestroubleshooting.htm

They offer support if you want to call them, and it isn't just on machines they have sold. They say they can often take care of errors like this over the phone.

leocat168 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:51:58 PM »

Thank you for the information.. I'm pretty much at the point now where its pretty much i'm thinking I'll need that clear chip and have the info to install. I"m going to try to find one from where you suggested and give it a try

rokgpsman · « **Reply #56 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:05:21 PM »

The CLEAR chip is good to have, even if it doesn't take care of this problem you may need it eventually, especially if you end up liking these things and get another one.

What Shaggy said about how your display should blink when you shut the door troubles me. Since your display does not blink I'm not sure your optics are working right but I'm not an expert. But if they aren't then that probably is the cause of the error 61 and a CLEAR chip won't fix a hard fail on an optics problem. I've heard something about how you can check the door optics tx part by using a digital camera to look at it or take a photo of it, the camera is able to see the infrared light, which verifies the optic tx is working. Also, I was thinking the machine had an optics test in the test/diag menu that will check things too but I may be wrong about that.

This is one of those times when we do the best we can on advice but you may need to try different things to get it working. At least you'll get more familiar with your machine and learn along the way, that's always worthwhile.

jay · « **Reply #57 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:49:06 PM »

You should get a SET chip also.
You need to use one of these to activate the bill validator after a game change or a clear.
Set 15 and a Set 90 would be recommended.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #58 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:04:27 PM »

His machine doesn't have a bill validator, it is an early S+, so I don't think he would ever need a SET chip on this machine, even after a game theme change.

But I suppose if getting a SET and CLEAR chip pair wasn't that much more cost than the CLEAR chip only it would make sense to get both chips if he thought he may get another S+ down the road. They are often bundled together as a package sale.

leocat168 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:57:16 PM »

I've ordered the clear chip for now.. I figure either way it can't hurt to have it on hand... I'm also concerned about the door optic sensor.. I remember reading somewhere about the camera/picture test... I'm gonna look for the post and try that.

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