Bally 809-ZZN Full Restoration.

[David Walz]

I have to get the motor gear, it's kinda funny that these motors are still running after all of this time.

[David Walz]

I'm still fussing over everything, making sure everything is functioning properly.

[David Walz]

Installed the delay relay circuit. The switch, bracket, screws, are really a PITA sourcing, then when I received it in the mail the seller threw in some extra parts. Parts I can use on other areas of the slot machine. 

They must think I'm crazy building a hopper, and feeling sorry for me.     

[David Walz]

As of right now, I am needing a meter on the deck (I found the wires), the gear for the motor, and the hopper cover.

[wolftalk]

your hopper motor is the newer style with a brake.  The white plastic thing stops the rotor from spinning when the power cuts off and more-or-less instantly stops the pinwheel from turning.

with that style motor you don't need the override solenoid, but it won't hurt to have both.

[David Walz]

your hopper motor is the newer style with a brake.  The white plastic thing stops the rotor from spinning when the power cuts off and more-or-less instantly stops the pinwheel from turning.

with that style motor you don't need the override solenoid, but it won't hurt to have both.

Will leave it as it is, nice to know that's a more modern motor. Now I need to see if it runs, and that won't be for awhile. I still need the gear and pin.

[David Walz]

Really, really great news. I was told the 809-ZZN hopper cover is available, that's awesome news. 

My 1090-29 hopper cover was nearly impossible to source. These hopper covers were removed by the casino's and tossed, so it's great to source them out.

[DavidLee]

Your right, 95% of the machines don’t have hopper or payout covers.
To much of a hassle when working on a machine.

If you know someone in the outdoor sign business.
Or have access to a metal brake, it would be easy to reproduce a cover.
Probably 22 or 24 gauge paint lock sheet metal would work.
Prototype pattern would be a great help for the fabricator.

[David Walz]

Your right, 95% of the machines don’t have hopper or payout covers.
To much of a hassle when working on a machine.

If you know someone in the outdoor sign business.
Or have access to a metal brake, it would be easy to reproduce a cover.
Probably 22 or 24 gauge paint lock sheet metal would work.
Prototype pattern would be a great help for the fabricator.

I've been fabricating all of my adult life (welding, woodworking, automotive, steel, house renovation, aluminum, etc.), and a cover is easy peasy, however I am restoring this to factory as much as I possibly can, recreating parts would be a last ditch alternative. One example is scrounging around my Bally wire pile looking for the correct wiring code for the hopper. Talk about PITA, that was really, really difficult to locate the correct wires. I had to order two random Bally wiring harness just to find enough of the 52 wire. I still have a long way to go in finishing up the 809-ZZN.

My 1090-29 is 100% Bally parts.

[David Walz]

It's not about what the slot machine can do without, its about a vintage slot machine being period correct for 1970's. Everything need to be in place, everything needs to be void of butchered wires, screws, holes need filled, cabinet needs to be repaired, glass needs to be correct free from damage.

This is my 1090-29 hopper, a example of a complete hopper, everything is in place. Really awesome!

[David Walz]

In reviewing the 1090-29 I was interested in the "Call For Attention" switch. The wire's attached to the switch are yellow and Orange-black.

On the 809-ZZN the yellow is cut, and a ground wire is in place. I knew something wasn't correct so I need to figure out the issue.

So I found out that the 83-2 in the 809-ZZN is the tower light wire in the door. I think were on the right track.

[slcjeeper]

As of right now, I am needing a meter on the deck (I found the wires), the gear for the motor, and the hopper cover.

If you’re looking for the curved front meter, Check with Monti at Monti’s Slots. I got several NOS from him last year. Montislots@thegrid.net

[David Walz]

As of right now, I am needing a meter on the deck (I found the wires), the gear for the motor, and the hopper cover.

If you’re looking for the curved front meter, Check with Monti at Monti’s Slots. I got several NOS from him last year. Montislots@thegrid.net

See Reply #218.
Everything must be old and the grunge look.

[David Walz]

After I did the research, I was able to reconnect the wires. The ohm meter has indicated the wiring is OK, no problems.

Seems like you are always ferreting out issues when restoring a slot machine. I have a system of checking out the wiring harness for stray wires. So far I have the deck meter reestablished, the tower light, A burnt wire, some problems with the fuse wires, all have been resolved.

Its still it's in much better shape than my 1090-29 when I first got it. 

[wolftalk]

Your right, 95% of the machines don’t have hopper or payout covers.

I've been fabricating all of my adult life (welding, woodworking, automotive, steel, house renovation, aluminum, etc.), and a cover is easy peasy, however I am restoring this to factory as much as I possibly can, recreating parts would be a last ditch alternative. One example is scrounging around my Bally wire pile looking for the correct wiring code for the hopper. Talk about PITA, that was really, really difficult to locate the correct wires. I had to order two random Bally wiring harness just to find enough of the 52 wire. I still have a long way to go in finishing up the 809-ZZN.

a wiring harness from a 1980's +/- a few years bally pinball machine is the same wire.  You'd get much longer wires :-)

[David Walz]

Your right, 95% of the machines don’t have hopper or payout covers.

I've been fabricating all of my adult life (welding, woodworking, automotive, steel, house renovation, aluminum, etc.), and a cover is easy peasy, however I am restoring this to factory as much as I possibly can, recreating parts would be a last ditch alternative. One example is scrounging around my Bally wire pile looking for the correct wiring code for the hopper. Talk about PITA, that was really, really difficult to locate the correct wires. I had to order two random Bally wiring harness just to find enough of the 52 wire. I still have a long way to go in finishing up the 809-ZZN.

a wiring harness from a 1980's +/- a few years bally pinball machine is the same wire.  You'd get much longer wires :-)

I acquired some pinball wiring for my 1090 slot machine and I have been sifting through it all along the hopper restoration. Along with the wires, I had a lot of pin ball switches that worked well in the slot machine, cannibalize rebuild.

[David Walz]

I assembled the fuse resetting wire harness.

[David Walz]

The hopper restoration is coming along, it fits in the slot machine. Not much room inside the cabinet.

[David Walz]

I figured out that the winner switch wires were not correct they were dragging on the base of the hopper. I took it out and put a different setup.
Actually, I think I am getting better building the switches, I have a lot of them that I cannibalize.

[David Walz]

I'm still working on the wiring harness, sorting out some gremlins.