IGT Trimline cabinet with 044 board

[sandelslover]

Hello, today I managed to acquire an IGT Trimline (is it AVP?) in visually quite good shape. However, I have no idea which version (Game King) it is; in short, I don't have any prior information about it before purchasing. I found this community and was glad to discover it.

Could anyone provide any technical sheets, service manuals, or any relevant information? Also, could you tell me which version this is and whether it was a good buy for 130 euros? The only information I can provide is a bunch of pictures. At first, I thought it was missing some modules, like a coin dispenser, but the tray at the bottom doesn't even have a hole.

The first symptom I noticed is that it got stuck during a zero checking flash on boot. The three loading dots just stopped moving, and after that, the second amber light on the computer board went dim (initially, all lights are lit yellow and two of them are green). The computer case has a Pioneer stamp and model code 59714000 REV A. Boot chip has GKB00025 marking. It has game Wolf Run GK002066.

Based on information from the community and a video by Tilt on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6oaT9XwuI&ab_channel=Tilt48658), this could be due to faulty batteries on the computer board. I strongly suspect mine is the international version, so I don't want to boot it without the battery until I replace it.

My board has one button cell and another NiMH battery, which has degraded. I believe the pictures will tell all. My next task is to buy a new 3.6V NiMH battery and a new CR2354 button battery on Monday.

Could someone tell me what the CR2354 is for? I know that the green Varta is for storing credits information and so on. I handled the computer board with gloves, as I read that it is very sensitive to static electricity.

Thank you for your help and a pleasure to join you!

[sandelslover]

More pictures attached. Could someone also tell me which wires are hanging freely inside, the one that is taped has jumper to connect the wires. The other ones seems to be cut, also the normal lock on the side (for attendant?) has no wires attached, so is it converted freeplay?

[sixcardmark]

Wow looks like all GK 044 guts inside a trimline cab?  Button battery is for memory, not the varta.  Better do something quick with the varta before it destroys the board.

[sandelslover]

Wow looks like all GK 044 guts inside a trimline cab?  Button battery is for memory, not the varta.

This is a good thing, right? The boot problem is caused by the Varta as I understand it? Also this computer has an i960, so does this thread belong in another section (https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=68.0)?

[sixcardmark]

No varta reports upstairs when the door has been opened I believe.

[sixcardmark]

Wow looks like all GK 044 guts inside a trimline cab?  Button battery is for memory, not the varta.

This is a good thing, right? The boot problem is caused by the Varta as I understand it? Also this computer has an i960, so does this thread belong in another section (https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=68.0)?

Zero checking flash is bad flashboard I think.  It may be reflashed and maybe not.

[sandelslover]

Wow looks like all GK 044 guts inside a trimline cab?  Button battery is for memory, not the varta.

This is a good thing, right? The boot problem is caused by the Varta as I understand it? Also this computer has an i960, so does this thread belong in another section (https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=68.0)?

Zero checking flash is bad flashboard I think.  It may be reflashed and maybe not.

I understand, thanks for the heads up. My assumption about the error is based on this thread https://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=16410.0. Well, I'll certainly give it a try.

[Tilt]

 

That's an interesting machine.  I've never seen one quite like it.  The cabinet looks like a Trimline AVP machine, but it has what looks to be a 044MPU board in it.  The motherboard (or backplane) that the MPU plugs into is different than what I'm used to seeing for a 044 motherboard though.  I'm not sure what the wires are that are laying in the bottom of the cabinet.  Normally I would think they were part of a player tracking system, but it looks like they're part of your machine.  There should be a pair of wires that go to the jackpot reset switch, they may be laying somewhere in the vicinity of the switch.

You're correct, your Wolf Run game software version is an international version and you'll need a good working Varta battery installed on it, so don't modify it to run without it.  The green Varta battery is a rechargeable NiMH battery that's called the "Telltale" battery.  What it does is monitor the machines doors when the power to the machine is off and records those events for security purposes.  You don't need that for home use, but your game software requires it to be installed and working.  That's why your machine is freezing upon bootup, because that battery is dead. 

The coin cell battery is the CMOS memory battery.  It stores games statistics, some game and machine configuration options, keeps the real time clock running when the power is off, and other various things.  The machine will boot up without one (or a dead one) but will not be playable as you will get an error message stating "Main battery low". 

I've never seen any documentation for a machine like yours, hopefully somebody here has and can help with that.  I'm not sure if it was just made for international markets or not, but I've never seen one like it in the US. 

I recommend replacing the telltale battery and the CR2354 CMOS battery and seeing if you can get the machine to boot up.  If the game starts to boot and locks up like it does leave it like that for a couple of hours so the telltale battery can charge up and try it again.

I'd say you got a really good deal, that equates out to roughly $140USD.  The flash card that has the game software on it alone is worth that, but hopefully you can get it running. 

If you could, see if you can get a good picture of the entire motherboard.  I'm interested in seeing more of it.  Also look around the cabinet for wires that may go to the jackpot reset switch and take a picture if you find any.  I don't think it's either of the ones laying on the bottom of the cabinet in the photo.


(Edit, this thread has grown since I started this message.  I'm posting it anyhow even if some of this is now redundant.)

[sixcardmark]

The link he just posted is to another one just like his!!

[sixcardmark]

Wow I thought that backplane was the backside of the monitor! 

[sandelslover]

That's an interesting machine.  I've never seen one quite like it.  The cabinet looks like a Trimline AVP machine, but it has what looks to be a 044MPU board in it.  The motherboard (or backplane) that the MPU plugs into is different than what I'm used to seeing for a 044 motherboard though.  I'm not sure what the wires are that are laying in the bottom of the cabinet.  Normally I would think they were part of a player tracking system, but it looks like they're part of your machine.  There should be a pair of wires that go to the jackpot reset switch, they may be laying somewhere in the vicinity of the switch.

You're correct, your Wolf Run game software version is an international version and you'll need a good working Varta battery installed on it, so don't modify it to run without it.  The green Varta battery is a rechargeable NiMH battery that's called the "Telltale" battery.  What it does is monitor the machines doors when the power to the machine is off and records those events for security purposes.  You don't need that for home use, but your game software requires it to be installed and working.  That's why your machine is freezing upon bootup, because that battery is dead. 

The coin cell battery is the CMOS memory battery.  It stores games statistics, some game and machine configuration options, keeps the real time clock running when the power is off, and other various things.  The machine will boot up without one (or a dead one) but will not be playable as you will get an error message stating "Main battery low". 

I've never seen any documentation for a machine like yours, hopefully somebody here has and can help with that.  I'm not sure if it was just made for international markets or not, but I've never seen one like it in the US. 

I recommend replacing the telltale battery and the CR2354 CMOS battery and seeing if you can get the machine to boot up.  If the game starts to boot and locks up like it does leave it like that for a couple of hours so the telltale battery can charge up and try it again.

I'd say you got a really good deal, that equates out to roughly $140USD.  The flash card that has the game software on it alone is worth that, but hopefully you can get it running. 

If you could see if you can get a good picture of the entire motherboard.  I'm interested in seeing more of it.  Also look around the cabinet for wires that may goto the jackpot reset switch and take a picture if you find any.  I don't think it's either of the ones laying on the bottom of the cabinet in the photo.


(Edit, this thread has grown since I started this message.  I'm posting it anyhow even if some of this is now redundant.)

Wow, are you the author of that YouTube video? That would be an amazing coincidence or fate. Thanks for your information, I really appreciate it! I'll be sure to take more pictures on Monday and try to change the batteries.

[Tilt]

The link he just posted is to another one just like his!!

It says Trimline in the title, but the interior looks like a 17" Game King cabinet to me.   Am I missing something? 

[Tilt]

Wow, are you the author of that YouTube video? That would be an amazing coincidence or fate. Thanks for your information, I really appreciate it! I'll be sure to take more pictures on Monday and try to change the batteries.

Yeah, that's me.  I didn't think anyone would actually watch it though    I'm glad you found it helpful .  Ok, we'll be looking forward to the pictures next week.  Have a nice weekend.  Where are you at in Europe?

[sixcardmark]

Yes you are correct, title threw me off. I thought it was also in a trimline cab, and I didn't notice that different backplane board in this one, I thought it was backside of monitor.

[Tilt]

Wow I thought that backplane was the backside of the monitor! 

After looking closer I'm not sure if it is or not.  I thought it was due to the fuses and other connectors, but in the very first photo the backplane looks it's different than the board in that picture.  Still doesn't quite look like a 044 motherboard though.  The fuses in the one picture is what made me think it was the motherboard.  Hopefully some better pictures will clear it up some.

[sandelslover]

I ended up writing a lengthy message but accidentally closed the tab. Perhaps it was a reminder to be more concise.

Today was somewhat successful; I managed to desolder and resolder the telltale battery and also replaced the button cell. I wasn't overly optimistic, but to my surprise, the device booted up into the game, displaying an error message about a coin jam. Oddly enough, the machine lacks a coin slot hole and didn't come with a coin hopper. After some digging on this forum, I think the issue stems from the dead button cell battery wiping the settings, which means I now need to find a specific chip, known as the key chip. 

I have attached several pictures, making sure that the cut wires are captured. I'm curious about their function. Additionally, it turns out the attendant key does have wires; they were just bent at a 90-degree angle, making it appear wireless to me. Sorry for that confusion!

Could I have some advises where I might find the key chip for this device?

Also is this machine AVP (Advanced Video Processor), or is it something specific to the Trimline model? Here are multiple images for reference.

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