Author Topic: igt slant top pe+ double double poker wba 11 no working (Read 18135 times)

Shaggy · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:29:13 PM »

OK Noclue, I don't have a slant top but on my S+ to remove the "cage" the power supply on the left side of the bill validator hangs on 2 pins on the front and needs to be pulled out and then forward to remove it. Drop it to the side. There is a screw underneath it that needs to be removed. Remove the bill validator after that and the cash can to access the inside of the "cage". Remove the top screw, then towards the bottom of the inside of the cash can pocket are 2 screws. Remove them and the cage should be loose. Undo the three connectors from the power supply to the bill validator harness. You should be able to remove the entire cage and harness now. There are 2 screws holding the harness in place. Take those out and remove the the harness and replace with the "new" one. Make sure to install the "new" one facing the correct way for your b/v. After all that install in the opposite order and you should be good to go. This is a 5 minute process that takes 15 minutes to write. Hope all goes good for you.
Dave
Actually I'm not sure there is a top screw. I'm doing this from memory. Kind of lift up and out with the insides. It should come right out. Hope this is close enough for your type of machine.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:04:47 AM »

thanks rick i look at it and seen the screws one on left side is behind light fixture needs to be remove to get to screw
cv said earlier if change to wba 12 i need a set chip witch i don't know how to use

noclue-socal · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:14:50 AM »

sorry shaggy didn't see your post new here never look past first page
thanks for advice haven't try it yet like i said to rick i am no good when comes to mess with electronics like chips etc.

rickhunter · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:18:37 AM »

If you don't have a set chip, you should acquire one anyway as they are very useful in re-seting up the machine in case something happens. The set chip is not all that difficult to use. Basically you put the set chip in place of the game chip (someone else with pe experience should be able to tell you which one), then you boot with the set chip, and use the option to enable the validator. The reason you need a set chip is because certain setup parameters are secured from change without it to comply with certain jurisdictional requirements. Like changing payback percentages, etc. Because the bill validator accepts cash, the local gaming comission wants to make sure when the machine is setup, that it doesn't have any cheating device on the machine that will defraud the player, that is why anything relating to gaming equipment must have any software validated by the commission.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:40:40 AM »

rick i don't even know what it is or where to get one like i said electronics and me bad news
but willing to try the worse thing i can do is blow up the machine where can i get one and are they expensive
is a special one for my machine

rickhunter · « **Reply #25 on:** January 31, 2015, 01:07:53 PM »

you can post a WTB here in the classifieds (You have to be a contributing member to do that). You can e-bay it.

here is one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-PE-and-PE-Plus-Video-Clear-and-Set-chip-w-instructions-Pe-Set38-/251806548368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa0d70190

The long description says S+, but set 38 is for the pe machines. Ask the vendor to make sure you are getting the right thing.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #26 on:** January 31, 2015, 08:06:49 PM »

thanks rick i will check ebay before i do that i need a new bv
today i p/u a machine from cl $35 not working for parts it has bv in it is wba 12 with the plug
i will take it out and the cage and try on my i will post pic tomorrow

Shaggy · « **Reply #27 on:** January 31, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »

You don't need to change the inner "cage" they are the same on both machines.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2015, 08:29:42 PM »

thanks shaggy i was because i need to take out to change plugs change the whole thing i don't know if the one i got works
when power up will it make noise even though the machine doesn't recognize the new bv

noclue-socal · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:35:18 PM »

those any one knows if when battery is low and pull the board out and change the battery will it disable the bv

rickhunter · « **Reply #30 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:39:59 PM »

Yes it will. If you don't replace the battery the game will not work anyway, so you need the set chip anyway.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2015, 01:43:50 PM »

thanks rick the machine that i am haven problems with the bv need it a battery when i got it so was never reset

only works with coins i will buy the chips
the one i p/u yesterday for parts needs a new battery so if i post pic of board will u show me where the chip goes

rickhunter · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2015, 07:26:14 PM »

If not me, I'm sure somebody else will also chime in.

noclue-socal · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2015, 06:33:01 PM »

hello every one i did take pic of bv and the board of the parts machine can any one show me where set chip goes thanks
i spoke to ngl today can remember with who and can be other things wrong if bv don't cycle up on power up so wife and i going to laughlin in march so i will stop by nlg shop and have them look at it also the person on phone say to bring power unit

every one and nlg for all the help

rickhunter · « **Reply #34 on:** February 03, 2015, 09:36:04 PM »

95% sure it replaces the one that says "program" which would be the chip with label by itself on the right hand side of the picture.

CVslots · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2015, 09:41:14 PM »

And the battery is that little green and white thing at the top right corner of the board...

noclue-socal · « **Reply #36 on:** February 03, 2015, 10:04:17 PM »

thanks every one will try when get the set chip
cv i try to call the shop today and went to a different # then dial

i am changing the battery with that holder on right of board with red/black wires and attach holder to tray with quick disconnect so never mess with solder on board again

Jim · « **Reply #37 on:** February 04, 2015, 09:33:11 AM »

this is getting a little confusing? lets go back to the machine that was working using coins.as it was stated earlier, the game has two independent ways to establish credits, using coins or using the bill acceptor. we know the coins work! the bill acceptor is a separate unit. it contains 6 major sub components, they are : the transport unit, the head, the transport/cash can shelf and wire harness unit, cash can, the power supply, and the bezel lamp assembly. when all these are combined and power is applied the unit should cycle, usually involves the transport resetting the cash can and the transport running the gear train in the head. you have a WBA-11 transport (the plug on the rear has the gold contacts exposed). you said you have 110 vac going into the power supply, you could look at the right side of the transport unit, next to the dip switches, there should be two red leds on, which would indicate that the power supply is putting out the 13 vdc . the cash can is good, the chip installed looks to be in there the right way, and the protocol switch seems to be in the right position. So the important part is to determine if the power supply is working, red LEDS on, or you can measure the voltage at the small two pin connector that should be plugged into the harness plug coming out of the shelf assembly. you can test this unit out of the machine, remove the shelf assembly, take off the wire harness, now extend the power supply connections out of the topbox and connect to the wire harness, plug the wire harness into the back of the wba-11, mark down the settings of all the switches before this next step, now set switches 123 and 8 on, apply power , turn 8 off, unit will cycle briefly, you can now insert bills into the unit, they will travel through and come out the back where they would be sent to the cash can. if the unit does work, then your problem is elsewhere. looking at your parts board, you are missing a chip the data chip, also go to the PE+ section and there is a step by step instruction how to enable the BV.

Hope this helps

Jim

noclue-socal · « **Reply #38 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:18:52 AM »

thanks jim
i will try it little confuse about red led how can i see them when transporter is in the cage inside machine
i am new to all this trying to learn thanks for the help
when it comes to electronics i need lots of help

Jim · « **Reply #39 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:27:18 AM »

open the exterior bill acceptor door, turn on the power, look at an angle you should be able to see the red leds, if not put your hand about a 1/2 inch away from the right side of the transport unit you should be able to see the red reflect on you hand or put a piece of white paper next to that side, if the LEDS are on you should see a reflection.

Jim

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