Author Topic: I need advice on Bally S5500 (Read 11693 times)

Amechanic · « **Reply #40 on:** September 09, 2018, 11:06:29 AM »

You might be able to get the nut off the locks latch with the front door open. It should be a 7/16â€ wrench.

Badbaud · « **Reply #41 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:25:09 PM »

Locksmith for sure.

Paul · « **Reply #42 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:46:35 PM »

You can grind it off. Its just chrome plated soft brass.

Turn the slot on its side, lock up and
grind the top of the lock till the lock
pins come out then you can turn the
lock and open the door.

You can even do it with a hand file!

Bluefish11 · « **Reply #43 on:** September 09, 2018, 05:02:44 PM »

Do I need to get in that box to fix my error?
What's the top lock for?
It has 2 wires connected to it

Amechanic · « **Reply #44 on:** September 09, 2018, 05:17:54 PM »

Thatâ€™s the reset your looking at. The book locks lower. If you are able to remove the bill head, then you should be able to just lift out the transport. At that point you will have access to the side door

Paul · « **Reply #45 on:** September 09, 2018, 05:18:57 PM »

The lock with the two wires is the hand
pay- jackpot rest switch.

If the switch that is giving you the error is in
the cash can area then you will need to get it
open or bypass the switch at the MPU.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #46 on:** September 09, 2018, 07:53:40 PM »

The upper key thingy is a switch, not a lock. When you turn it with a key the 2 wires connected to it are connected together. That signals the mpu board that you are doing a "jackpot reset". It's mainly used in the casino when a player hits a large jackpot and the machine stops and freezes play where it is, waiting for a casino person to come over to do a handpay. After paying the player in person the casino person inserts the key, turns it momentarily and resets the machine so it can go back to normal play.

The jackpot reset key can also be used to do certain things in the setup menu and the bookkeeping (financial stats) menus. If you don't have the key for the jackpot reset keyswitch you can get one, they are almost always the "2341" key, available lots of places. It looks like this:

http://www.spininc.com/01465-0

The cash security switches your machine has are probably located above/under that cash compartment, or nearby. The cash compartment door lock probably has a cam attached (short piece of metal) that bumps against a switch mounted near the lock and that activates it. That way the machine knows if the cash compartment door is unlocked.

Badbaud · « **Reply #47 on:** September 09, 2018, 08:37:10 PM »

There is another switch located inside on the floor of the bill cavity to sense when the bill stacker is sitting inside properly.
It can be defeated by removing the stacker and duct taping a stiff piece of cardboard into the slot and holding the switch down in the on position.
You can also pull the COM and N/O wires off of the switch and strip the ends and wire nut them together.
They are hard to get to because the switch is located on the inside wall right above the handle box.

Bluefish11 · « **Reply #48 on:** September 09, 2018, 09:56:31 PM »

Man I tell what, you would never know there was this much to these machines by looking at them.
I managed to get the bill acceptor opened from the inside, I pushed down on the spring loaded bottom on the compartment, and now I'm getting the 54 plus a 73 code.
I'm not even sure what I'm doing in the bill compartment, what door is open that I'm getting the error?

Badbaud · « **Reply #49 on:** September 09, 2018, 10:14:09 PM »

The door key has a metal tang on it that rotates into a slot at the front, inside, edge of the cavity.
That metal tang hits a switch that closes the switch contacts.
It can also be defeated permanently by jumper-ing the wires that go to the COM and N/O terminals of the switch.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #50 on:** September 09, 2018, 10:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Bluefish11 on September 09, 2018, 09:56:31 PM

Man I tell what, you would never know there was this much to these machines by looking at them.
I managed to get the bill acceptor opened from the inside, I pushed down on the spring loaded bottom on the compartment, and now I'm getting the 54 plus a 73 code.
I'm not even sure what I'm doing in the bill compartment, what door is open that I'm getting the error?

Slot machines are built to a much higher security standard than arcade or other toy machines. The casino has to know when the cash storage compartment is opened and closed, that's where the money is kept and the casino doesn't trust the player or the casino employees regarding it. The states that license the casino also want this security because they get a portion of the money that the machine brings in.

The small door for the cash compartment that is on the side of the machine has a lock. Look above where the lock turns when the door is closed to see if there is a security switch there.

You are probably going to need to post photos to help us see what you are seeing that you have questions about. Otherwise it gets much harder for us to give help.

Bluefish11 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 10, 2018, 10:48:52 PM »

Ok, I found the switch it was against the wall side on top of the bill acceptor.
So I tripped it and wedged a piece of cardboard underneath it, closed the door and Bingo!! No more codes!!
Can I play now?
Can I use quarters?
I guess I have to fill it with money first, can I just put quarters in hopper?

rokgpsman · « **Reply #52 on:** September 10, 2018, 11:40:36 PM »

That's good, now you see how the security switches operate and that they need to be "closed" so no error code condition appears. As was said before, you can remove the 2 wires that go to that security switch and touch or twist the ends of the wires together permanently, that will reliably keep that security switch from causing a nuisance error if your cardboard slips and falls out. This is what is called "bypassing" the security switch. The best way to do this is to disconnect the 2 wires from the security switch. Then cut off the connectors at the ends of the 2 wires, remove about 1/2 inch of insulation and twist the wires together. Then insulate the bare wires with a plastic wire nut, you can get them at any hardware store, I think even WalMart has them. This will make the machine think that the security switch is always closed, so no error codes. But if you think your cardboard wedged in there will stay in place then that's ok for now.

Yes, since the label on the front of the machine says "25 cents" then it should be setup for quarters. So insert a quarter and tell us what happens. If it gets accepted and you see a "1" in the credit display then it's working. Press the Bet One button, then the Spin button and the reels should spin. But if the quarter comes back to you in the front coin tray then there is more to do.

On the inside of the main door there is a device called the "coin acceptor" or "coin comparitor". It's job is to check the coin that you insert into the coin slot to see if that coin is the correct type. Post a photo of the inside of the door showing this coin acceptor. The coin acceptor is usually the style that has to have an example coin installed into it. This example coin is called the "sample" coin.

The machine will work even if the hopper is empty. You can insert a quarter, get a credit, press the buttons and the reels will spin. But if you get a winning spin and the machine is setup to payout wins immediately then you will get a hopper error code because it is empty.

Putting a bunch of quarters into the coin hopper would be the way it's done in the casino. But you don't have to do that, you can just put enough in there that it will be able to pay you on small wins. Then as you play you will insert more quarters and they will go to the hopper. On many spins you won't win anything, so the quarters will accumulate in the coin hopper. It will be sort of like a piggy-bank, you'll have a bunch of quarters in there, you can open the machine any time and get them out.

But doing it that way you'll have a problem when you get a large winning spin and the hopper doesn't have enough quarters to pay you. So a better way is to setup the machine for credit play. When you get a winning spin instead of paying you the coins it will put the winning amount onto the "credit meter". The machine will keep track of your winnings. That way the hopper isn't operating all the time to payout your wins, and you won't have to keep a large number of coins in the hopper. Hopefully the machine is already setup for credit play, but if not I recommend you check into that, get the machine setup for credit play.

What about the bill validator? Try inserting a $1 bill and see what happens. Pay attention to how you insert the $1 bill. Since your machine has a DBV-145 bill acceptor the bill has to be inserted face up, and it has to be with the top of Washington's head to the right. On newer bill validators you can insert the bill any way you want to, but on the older DBV-145 it has to be done this way.

The machine can be played by inserting quarters and many people do it that way. But having a working bill acceptor makes it easier to add several playing credits to the machine so you can play without having to insert coins every time.

Bluefish11 · « **Reply #53 on:** September 11, 2018, 08:26:45 AM »

More to do, I tried a quarter and it came right out.
I put a sample coin in the coin acceptor but the quarter comes right back out.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #54 on:** September 11, 2018, 08:36:32 AM »

ok. I don't see a quarter in the photo of the coin comparitor, did you get it installed properly?

When you open the door with machine power on does the mpu metal mounting tray have any lites on or off? Is there a button for "pseudo coin"? If so try pressing it to see if you get a credit on the machine. Post a clear photo of the mpu tray with the machine powered on.

Amechanic · « **Reply #55 on:** September 11, 2018, 12:08:37 PM »

You need to install a quarter in the comparitor.. I have a yellow circle on the pic of where the quarter goes. You need to slide the piece to the right, see orange arrow. Then install a quarter in between the two other orange arrows on the pic.. It must lay flat..

rokgpsman · « **Reply #56 on:** September 11, 2018, 12:23:33 PM »

Example of sample coin installed in photo below.

Also, on the coin comparitor turn the sensitivity adjustment screw all the way counter-clockwise (to the left). This will help to eliminate nuisance coin rejections. This may not be the problem you are having now but it is something good to do anyway to eliminate future problems when the machine is working ok. Use a small flat-blade screwdriver.

Bluefish11 · « **Reply #57 on:** September 11, 2018, 05:22:08 PM »

Yes the pseudo coin button gives me a coin in and I get to pull the arm!
No lights on the board.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #58 on:** September 11, 2018, 06:20:53 PM »

OK! I'm not a Bally expert but if you can get a credit by pressing the pseudo coin button and then get the reels to spin by pressing SPIN button or pulling the arm then I'm pretty sure that means most of the machine is working, that there is something not right about the "coin in" stuff. This means the coin compartitor and the coin optic board right below the coin comparitor.

Show us a photo of the inside of the door, be sure to have plenty of light so we can see things clearly.

Amechanic · « **Reply #59 on:** September 11, 2018, 06:32:02 PM »

Does the yellow LED on the coin in optic board light up? If no then I believe they are bad. That should be on. Also I see that there is a $1.00 marked on the metal plate in front on the coin optics. I wonder if you might have a $1.00 coin guide? If your running quarters you need a quarter coin guide to get the coin over the optics. Iâ€™m trying to remember if the coin o comparitor light up on a 5500 with the door open.

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