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Pop quiz #1
« on: February 01, 2015, 09:17:55 PM »

Pop quiz 1 Just for giggles...answer one or more of the following.
#1. How do you check the same pay on a machine twice?(There are at least 4 ways, name one...)
#2. You just were paid 10 coins for 3 oranges.  What is the easiest way to check that pay again?
#3. Customer hit 3 Sevens for a 500 coin payout.  Customer says it did not pay anything, while the machine legend says it will drop 200 coins.  There are no lights on the machine, and it is dead.  What do you check first?
#4.  How do you determine how many coins were paid out before the machine malfunctioned?


Bonus question -- What does the carry-over on the hopper payboard do?
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 11:12:01 PM by DonnerPartyofAte »
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Re: Pop quiz #1
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 10:45:51 PM »
well #3 is easy.. The machine timed out in the safety timer. Look for the red light. Push the lever in under the hopper if that machine has the lever. If not remove the hopper and push the white reset button on the safety timer. This will reset the breaker and the light will come back on..

Bonus question.. Is that the curcuit that cause the safety timer to reset after every fifth coin is paid? There is a roller style cherry switch that rides on a nylon gear/cam with a notich for every fifth coin? It's found on the backside of the payout board by the return spring?

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Re: Pop quiz #1
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 11:00:05 AM »
The bonus question regarding the carry over circuit. I believe that it is used for higher payouts like 100 coins.

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Re: Pop quiz #1
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 11:19:12 AM »
well Ill bite!

1 and 2 :  I would use the spin reels ,hold fan, set to payout you want to check. see what happens.

3  Gary answered it, I would put enough coins in the hopper so it didn't happen again.

4  look at how many coins were played, look at where  the payout disc  stopped, do the math.

bonus  was answered by rdaniel.

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Re: Pop quiz #1
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2015, 07:07:35 PM »

#1. To check the pay on a machine you have to reset the payboard.  The hardest way, is to pull the hopper, and reach wayyyyy back and push the payboard reset solenoid.  The second way is to pull the hopper and push down on the step up arm (part #42 page 110 of your bally manual).  Actually you can do this without pulling the hopper if you know just where to push.  The 3rd way is to set up a pay, pull handle, hold fan and release fan.  And the last and very very best way to recheck a payout is to push back on the variator bar above the fan, and that will close the 'B' switch and reset your hopper.  You can do that over and over and over again, and check that pesky pay as long as you want.


#2.  Easiest way.  Push back on variator bar above the fan, and it will reset and pay again.


#3. Gary is correct, look for the red light out, and reset the safety timer white button.


#4.  Jim is correct.  ALWAYS look at payboard before you do anything.  It is exactly 100 steps, and it is marked, so you can pretty well tell within a coin or two, just how much has been paid out.  In a multiplier machine, it is steps on payboard times the multiplier.  On a continental, however, you must also look at top unit to see how many times the payboard has reset, however the question was -- for a jackpot pay, which always pays 200 coins and the X2 unit as automatically forced by the Jackpot lockup relay.  (This is disputable however if anyone wants to call me out on it...)


And, bonus question, rdaniel is correct.  The Carry Over is so that you can pay out EXACTLY 100 coins, or 200 coins, or 50 coins, as the CO foil on the board you will note ends right at those points.  A student once told me we did not need the carry over as he could adjust the payboard fingers to stop at exactly 200 coins without the carry over.  I told him if he could do that twice in a row, that I would give him an A, and he could pass the class that day.  He could not do it.  This is because of the slop in the carriage and the wiper fingers.
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Re: Pop quiz #1
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 10:03:51 PM »
That was fun and educational. Can you do more of them?

 

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