New S+ Owner Double Diamond Problem or Problems

[mikeflstfi]

Hi - I picked up a Double Diamond yesterday, and have some questions about what I think might be the 61 loop. This is an older machine, maybe a 1993 mfg. According to the bible thread, it's a 2CM, Type 0, and it has a SP-625 Game PROM. No bill validator, just a straight up quarter machine. Previous owner just replaced the MPU battery and then lost interest in the machine.

1. Following the procedure that I found here to clear the 61: Open front door, pull lower tray, power on, replace tray, press white reset button (located on the MPU housing itself, not near the power switch).
2. If I hold the white reset button for 3 seconds, I don't hear a beep, it does not progress to 61-1 but it does do something. Usually ends up flashing '0' and '1' in the Coins Played window.
3. Then I close the front door, slide the latch down, and use the reset key. I don't know if I'm doing that right because I just turn it 90 degrees and leave it. Should I turn it 90 degrees and then turn it back?
4. After turning the reset switch 90 degrees, the machine acts like it wants to come up, but never really does. Sometimes I get 9999s flashing in the Winner Paid and Credits LEDs, sometimes I get '2' in the Coins Played, and if I futz with the Bet One Credit button, I can eventually get the reels to spin. But they always finish in the same position, between the 7's and the 'BAR'.
5. Inevitably it will then revert to the 61

My main problem, I think, is that it never gets to 61-1 when I hit or press the white reset button.

What should I try next, or what questions do you have that could help troubleshoot this?

Thanks!

[Trisail]

Hi - I picked up a Double Diamond yesterday, and have some questions about what I think might be the 61 loop. This is an older machine, maybe a 1993 mfg. According to the bible thread, it's a 2CM, Type 0, and it has a SP-625 Game PROM. No bill validator, just a straight up quarter machine. Previous owner just replaced the MPU battery and then lost interest in the machine.

1. Following the procedure that I found here to clear the 61: Open front door, pull lower tray, power on, replace tray, press white reset button (located on the MPU housing itself, not near the power switch).

Not sure about that 1st step of the procedure you found, pull lower tray? The MPU tray?
Power on, replace tray? I hope you did not put tray back in with power on?
The white button should be near the power switch if it is on your machine, if not it is the one on the front of the mpu tray.



2. If I hold the white reset button for 3 seconds, I don't hear a beep, it does not progress to 61-1 but it does do something. Usually ends up flashing '0' and '1' in the Coins Played window.

The procedure you are following is for when you replace the battery or clear the machine with a chip. Have you done any of this? If you just push the white test switch on a working machine (without battery replacement or clear chip) it will go through some information displays and you will hear clicks. That is normal.


3. Then I close the front door, slide the latch down, and use the reset key. I don't know if I'm doing that right because I just turn it 90 degrees and leave it. Should I turn it 90 degrees and then turn it back?

The reset key switch should be spring loaded to return on it's own, if it does not, turn it 90 then turn it back. It should be a momentary switch. On a working machine that will get you in the accounting menus. Normal.

4. After turning the reset switch 90 degrees, the machine acts like it wants to come up, but never really does. Sometimes I get 9999s flashing in the Winner Paid and Credits LEDs, sometimes I get '2' in the Coins Played, and if I futz with the Bet One Credit button, I can eventually get the reels to spin. But they always finish in the same position, between the 7's and the 'BAR'.

This is probably the accounting menus.


5. Inevitably it will then revert to the 61

My main problem, I think, is that it never gets to 61-1 when I hit or press the white reset button.


Reread the 61 error information and try again?


What should I try next, or what questions do you have that could help troubleshoot this?

Thanks!

I think you just want the machine powered up, 61 in the display,  press the white button, wait for beep and the display should change to 61 - 1, turn reset key (like momentary) and all should be good?

Tony

[mikeflstfi]

Thanks for the reply. The problem is I never get the 61-1 after pressing the white reset button. So I think any steps after that aren’t making any difference.

[Trisail]

You are correct. Have to get to 61-1. There is talk of the 61 loop. I believe you will need to get a clear and set chip to get passed that.

Tony

Sent you a PM.

[mikeflstfi]

Would I need a set chip even if my slot doesn't have a bill validator? What are good sources for the clear chip? Just eBay or is there something more reliable? Thanks!

EDITED to clarify my slot does not have a bill validator.

[Trisail]

Check your message box here on the forum,  I sent you a PM -personal message.

Member RB would be the one you could get clear and set chips from.

You would need the clear chip, I believe to get passed the 61 problem. You would need the set chip to re-enable your BV after the clear.

Give me a call if you like.

Tony

[mikeflstfi]

I got in touch with RB and he is sending me a clear chip. I'll update the post once I get it and get this error cleared up. Thanks to everyone here so far!

[mikeflstfi]

I wanted to follow up. I got the chips from RB.

I followed the clear procedure successfully and installed the new game ROM and Reels ROM that RB suggested and the game is working. Now I just need to do clean up and some restoration stuff and it will be 100%.

Thanks for everyone’s help. This is a great community!

Mike

[RB]