Author Topic: IGT S2000 problems (Read 10304 times)

sportsman2381 · « **on:** June 12, 2018, 03:19:06 PM »

Hello everyone, I have some problems with my slot machine. I hope someone can help. I have an IGT S2000 slot machine and first I had a Ram error and low main battery. I have replaced the main battery and the green varta battery and I cleared the ram error with the attendant key. Now I have closure M and door B open. The wires for the money box door were bypassed and twisted together and I also have power but my WBA 12/13 bill acceptor will not take any money. I was thinking of buying a Key 97 and Key 17 and trying the reset. Hope someone can help.

thanks,
Bill

mvco · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2018, 03:33:28 PM »

Any signs of leakage where the old green Battery was? If so, those traces that run under the Battery are notorius for causing the problem. Board replacement is the best option if that is the case.

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2018, 04:03:53 PM »

I checked the board and I didn't see any sign of leakage. I was thinking of replacing the whole board anyway to try that and the door I/O board too.

thanks,
Bill

Amechanic · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2018, 06:46:30 PM »

Lets get a fresh start.. Is this a game that you have owned and played before, or is this something new you just bought? Your bill acceptor will not work until the errors are cleared..

Sunrise Side · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:01:33 PM »

Has the belly glass door switch been bypassed? That switch could be bad if it is still in there.

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:21:31 PM »

This was a new game i have purchased i have not played

The Belly switch is still in place and not bypassed

Trisail · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2018, 09:16:02 PM »

I just got my 1st IGT and this sounds very much like what I have been going through the last 4 or 5 weeks. I had the same RAM ERROR and found the main (coin cell) battery was bad on mine. My Varta battery (green one) was good and no PCB damage. I removed it like suggested every where by people who know. I got the clear/key chips and got my machine 'working' but the sound, hopper and BV (Bill Validator) did not work. I started on the easy problem, for me, the sound. Still not fixed. Checked the hopper and still not fixed. Finally, while waiting for new parts I decided to tackle the BV. The part I knew nothing about. Did the forum research and Goggled what I could. Almost every suggestion is - be sure the cash box is in all the way. I checked mine many times, it was in, and in all the way. The problem is I never really ran across why it should be in all the way. I took the BV mechanism out and looked at it, the 1st thing I noticed were the 2 'gap' sensors in the back that appeared at 1st glance to do nothing. I knew they were there for a reason, but did not see anything in particular at 1st glance. After removing the cash box and the entire housing and looking at it on the bench - the 'gap' sensors are there to tell the BV that the cash box is in place (home) and that the cashbox is or is not full off bills. I fixed mine this way.

The 2 small plastic spring loaded 'flags' in the back work like this. When the cash box is out (or not in all the way in) the flag on the right (looking in from the front) is for the 'Home' sensor. So when the cash box is out, the flag is spring loaded down, the 'gap' sensor is blocked, and the BV senses that the cash box is out and will not initialize the BV reader. When the cash box is in, the flag is pushed up out of the 'gap' sensor, it is unblocked and the sensor tells the BV that the cash box is installed. I had to loosen the 'gap' sensor PCB mounting screws on the back side of the BV and adjust it so the flag(s) could move freely without rubbing or hanging up on the 'gap' sensors. It is made to line up with the flags, but the PCB does move a very tiny bit from slop in the screw holes. I moved it to get it as far to the bottom of the BV reader (closest to the cash box) as possible, and made sure when the cash box was in all the way so it actually pushed the 'flag' out of the 'gap' sensor. That should get the BV to initialize if it is enabled in the setup menu, and the Netplex communication talks to it. (I also had to adjust the entire housing and cash box alignment bracket in side the housing, it was missing a screw and I made sure everything was assembled in such a manner to get the 'flags' and 'gap' sensors aligned perfectly. I don't think you should have to do all of this.)

The 2nd 'flag' is to tell the BV that the cash box is full of bills. It has to line up and move freely like the home sensor. Every time the BV runs, 2 motors work. One for the belts to feed the bill into the BV, the 2nd motor to drive the cash box mechanism to store the bill. That 2nd 'flag' gets actuated every bill store cycle and if the cash box ends up being full, the 'flag' can not be lowered enough to block the 'gap' sensor, telling the BV it has room for at least one more bill. This should not be much of a problem for home use as I figure most people will not fill up the cashbox to max full. Either way, the sensor has to work or the BV will think the cash box is full and the BV will tell the MPU PCB to display a message that the BV is full. I don't know as I have not tested that.

So, both 'Gap' sensors, both 'flags' and the plastic gears, the plastic unit that holds the gears and 'flags' have to be in working order for the BV to initialize. If the 'gap' sensors are shorted/open, the flags are broken, the plastic parts (gears and such) are wore out, or the BV has any other PCB/electronic problems, it won't work.

Check the 'flags' with the BV and cashbox out, look in the back and push the 'flags' with a finger and make sure they move freely and easy. Make sure they are there and not broken. If they look OK, put everything in and power up the machine. If it does not make any noise, initialize, then hit the cash box pretty hard to see if you can 'bounce' the flags in place for a bit to start the BV initialize. (I know it sounds like the bigger hammer syndrome, but believe it or not that is how I found out my BV did work) That is what got me to remove the entire housing and look at it on the bench and figure out how it works.

Any way, good luck and I hope this helps.

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2018, 07:22:04 AM »

Thank you for the great advice. I will try that and see how it goes. Also, I did purchase a new MPU, I am going to change over anything and see how that goes. I will keep everyone posted.

thanks

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2018, 04:50:08 PM »

Thank you everyone for your help. I have replaced my board and used my reset key chips and everything is back in order, except I notice the payout ranges are off when you win. Is there a way to correct that? And I notice when I print a cash-out ticket you can not put it back in. Did I miss a setting for that?

thanks,
Bill

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therockinelvis · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2018, 05:09:52 PM »

Unless you have a TITO (ticket in ticket out) unit installed, you won't be able to use your printed tickets

Shaggy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2018, 05:20:27 PM »

Quote from: sportsman2381 on June 20, 2018, 04:50:08 PM

Thank you everyone for your help i have replaced my board and used my reset key chips and everything is back in order except i notice the payout ranges are off when you win is there a way to correct that and i notice when i print a cash-out ticket you can not put it back in also did i miss a setting for that thanks Bill

As Elvis said the TITO is the only way to get the machine to take printed tickets. The payouts being wrong could be, strips out of alignment or possibly the wrong strips. Can you post a pic of the machine from the front and let us see what the game and strips are? That will help to figure out the problem with the payout. There is no setting on the machine to match payouts with strips.

Dave

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2018, 06:54:13 PM »

i can not get photos too load

rokgpsman · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2018, 08:42:57 PM »

The size of the photo file that you upload has to be 1mb (1,000kb) or less. Your camera hopefully has a size adjustment in its settings menu, if so pick the smallest photo size, then take a photo of the front of your machine and try uploading it. If you continue to have problems you can email the photo to me and I can get it uploaded for you. I sent you an email to your gmail account, you can reply back to me and attach the photo to the email that you are wanting to upload. The photo can be of any size, won't be a problem that way.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2018, 10:07:23 AM »

Below are photos of his machine..... photos of the mpu board to follow when I get them.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2018, 10:13:13 AM »

Quote from: sportsman2381 on June 20, 2018, 04:50:08 PM

Thank you everyone for your help. I have replaced my board and used my reset key chips and everything is back in order, except I notice the payout ranges are off when you win. Is there a way to correct that? And I notice when I print a cash-out ticket you can not put it back in. Did I miss a setting for that?

thanks,
Bill

When you replaced the mpu board did you transfer your socketed chips from the old board to the new one, or did the new board come with chips that you left on it?

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2018, 02:53:26 PM »

i have replaced everything that i know of from the old board to the new one there were 2 enhanced chips that were on the new board i took those off and put the ones from the old board on there ? thanks Bill

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2018, 02:56:53 PM »

i also did not re install the netplex Battery 2 that are famous for leaking

therockinelvis · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:48:28 PM »

What SB and game chips do you have? I am thinking this was a new game to you. Maybe it was Frankensteined before you got it.

Amechanic · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:49:06 PM »

You do not need the Varta Battery. Only asking for trouble. Did it power on for you?

sportsman2381 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2018, 06:36:03 PM »

i Have SB10009 in U21 and stepper GME2 Sg000363 in U46 and stepper GME1 SG000363 in U19 machine powers on and functions its just the payouts are not correct. The only thing i did not change from the old board to the new board were the Intel I960 square chip in U51 and the Se net Rev 3 in the U721 slot thanks Bill

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