Pro 5500 comparitor question

[mr-monoxide]

I have a Bally Pro5500 that has a CC16-C comparitor installed from the factory. It may need to be replaced but I'm having a problem locating another one or even finding any information about it. Does anyone know what the specifications are for a CC16-C? There is only the model and serial numbers printed on the comparitor itself and nothing indicating voltage or other info. I'm trying to find out if it is the same as and can be replaced by a CC16-D typical to other Bally machines of the same era.

[rokgpsman]

If you can find out the Bally part number for the CC-16C in your machine(from a tag or other writing on the CC-16C somewhere, or from the manual for your machine) you may be able to track down the operating voltage from the list below which shows manufacturers p/n for various comparitors and compare the info for it to the other comparitor you are considering using. But this list is not very complete so it may not be any help. If you have the Bally manual for your machine it should give the Bally part number for the coin comparitor, and it may give a description of the coin comparitor that includes the voltage and other specs. You'd then be able to search for a coin comparitor by the Bally part number. There may be tags or stickers on the backside of your CC-16C.

If you suspect your CC-16C is bad can you not simply obtain another CC-16C instead of trying to substitute a different model? I wouldn't think the CC-16D is equivalent to the CC-16C, otherwise the coin comparitor company would have no need to make both of them. But I don't know that for certain.

[mr-monoxide]

I have checked the comparitor and it has no other stickers or labels on it. I also looked at the manual I have (ProSeries operators instruction) and it makes no reference to which comparitor it may be. I would happily replace it with another CC16-C if I could ever find another but so far I've not been able to locate one. I've noticed other 5500s have CC16-D comparitors which is why I'm hoping they are the same.

[rokgpsman]

Does your manual show the wiring going to the CC-16C? If so maybe it has the signal name and voltage amount for the wires. You could compare that info to the other machine with the CC-16D to see if they are the same.

[mr-monoxide]

No unfortunately the manual doesn't show anything to do with the wiring. It basically covers set up and operational procedures as well as basic testing and troubleshooting but that's about it.

[mr-monoxide]

So after researching this issue in depth I find I'm even more confused than before. Every single reference I can find pertaining to the 5500 comparitor says it's supposed to be a CC16-D. Nothing I've read so far has even mentioned a CC16-C. This has got me thinking that the comparitor may have been replaced by a previous owner, I thought it was original to the machine but now I'm not so sure. In fact ive noticed that every part# label I can find is dated 1993 with the exception of the CC16-C, it is dated 1990. I'm hoping someone in the know can help me clear this up as I don't want to fry anything by installing the wrong comparitor..

[rokgpsman]

Have you read back thru the various 5500 threads in this forum to see if there is any reference to the coin comparitor by other owners that might mention the model of coin comparitor used in their machine? There is a search feature that should pull up those threads with the word "comparitor" or "comparator" in them.

[mr-monoxide]

Yes, that's just where I've been looking. This site, the old site and anything my search engine might turn up. I haven't read them all of course but so far the cc16-D seems to be what most people say they have. I'll keep looking though...

[rokgpsman]

How do you know the CC-16C that's in there now was installed years ago at the Bally factory, especially if you've read that other machines like yours have the CC-16D? Couldn't someone before you got the machine have replaced the coin comparator with the wrong one?

[Sunrise Side]

In my experience with CC-16's  , you can use a CC-16 D or C  , as long as the coil wires for the rake on the back are the proper color and the comparitor electrical connection fits your harness it will work. You need the GREY coil wires. CC-16's have multi voltage taps. I currently have CC-16's on my old E1000, E2000, V1000, V2000, S5500 bally machines.

[rokgpsman]

Appreciate the info Sunrise, hopefully that will help with his problem.

[mr-monoxide]

Couldn't someone before you got the machine have replaced the coin comparator with the wrong one?

As I mentioned in reply#5 that's exactly what I have begun to suspect happened.

In my experience with CC-16's  , you can use a CC-16 D or C  , as long as the coil wires for the rake on the back are the proper color and the comparitor electrical connection fits your harness it will work. You need the GREY coil wires. CC-16's have multi voltage taps. I currently have CC-16's on my old E1000, E2000, V1000, V2000, S5500 bally machines.

And with that information the issue is solved. The CC-16 C I have does indeed have the grey wires running to the coil and the connection to the harness is the same as well. So I should be able to replace it with a CC-16 D with no problems. Thank you very much for all the help clearing this up. Happy New Year!

[mr-monoxide]

Confirmed. I removed the CC-16 C and installed a CC-16 D and it's working perfectly.

[rokgpsman]

That's great, glad it is working now. Still not sure why they'd make two different models of CC-16 if they are exactly the same. Maybe any difference between them is something that isn't a problem for your model of machine.