Author Topic: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor (Read 26640 times)

therockinelvis · « **Reply #80 on:** February 15, 2016, 03:39:53 PM »

Clear EPROMS: For All Current Game Themes
SET006 -S+ E-Square Clear
IVC006 -PE+ Clear CMOS/E-Square
IVC068 -EZ Route 8032 CVT Clear
IVC00096 -Vision Ram Clear
IVC00097 -Vision Ram/E-Square Clear (Replaces IVC00070)
IVC0103 -S+ CMOS (Ram)/ E-Square Clear
IVC0104 -S+ CMOS (Ram) Clear
CV0040 V.08 - EZ Route CVT Program
CSV0056 -Game King Ram/E-Square Clear (GME 1- GME-2)

Maybe the 006 or 103

TheBrave · « **Reply #81 on:** March 08, 2016, 03:02:11 PM »

I have an update...

I was thinking of using a different clear chip for this thing, particularly the IVC0103, but I can't find one. I saw that RICKHUNTER posted a while back that he used an IVC0103 to completely clear out an S+, so I asked to see if maybe there was one for sale or where to find one. No luck.

I was given some great advice, though. RICKHUNTER suggested I try a different SP chip to force a reset of sorts, which I did. I tried an SP1311 in place of the OEM SP0X11 and I could totally play the machine just fine - without the Empire bonus round.

I put the 0X11 back in and it's back to the 64 error code. Now I know what the problem is, so thank you RICKHUNTER!!!

Anyone know where I can get an SP0X11? Really wanna get one of these things.

Johnny

rokgpsman · « **Reply #82 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:06:50 PM »

I've not had any dealings with him but this seller has a lot of stuff like this, you might contact him and see if he has or can get what you need:

http://www.jjslots.com/S-Plus_c19.htm

TheBrave · « **Reply #83 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:20:08 PM »

I got my SP1311 from him as he didn't have any of the SP0X11's. It did get my slot running but just not *exactly* the way it should.

Thank you for the link, rokgpsman!

Johnny

IGT Games · « **Reply #84 on:** March 16, 2016, 01:26:51 PM »

I only looked quickly but in the top box do you have a MPU4 CONTROLLER with a 3.6 volt Varta battery inside? The battery goes bad over this much time and can destroy the MPU4. Try checking the voltage on the battery . If it is very low or dead then take it out and inspect for any trace damage. Good luck.

knagl · « **Reply #85 on:** March 16, 2016, 01:29:14 PM »

This isn't a Barcrest game.

IGT Games · « **Reply #86 on:** March 16, 2016, 04:02:57 PM »

I read thru and it is a AC COIN. I will ask around anyway.

TheBrave · « **Reply #87 on:** April 08, 2016, 01:14:06 PM »

I found a helpful post suggesting to remove the CMOS for a couple of mins, re-install and then perform a clear on the board. http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=10708.0

I was cautiously optimistic as it did act a little different after I put the SP chip back in.

It gave me a 65 error and then a 65_1 which I cleared no problem. Then the Insert Coin was lit up. No errors. Unfortunately the coins just fell thru to the tray, so I opened and closed the door again and the 64 is back.

I've been trolling ebay looking for the random SP0X11 chip to show up but it seems I have the last one left in the world. If anyone knows of where to get one of these things, please post back here!

Johnny

cowboygames · « **Reply #88 on:** April 08, 2016, 02:26:41 PM »

Send it out to have it read for errors and possibly rewritten

knagl · « **Reply #89 on:** April 09, 2016, 03:09:43 AM »

Quote from: TheBrave on April 08, 2016, 01:14:06 PM

I opened and closed the door again and the 64 is back.

I've been trolling ebay looking for the random SP0X11 chip to show up but it seems I have the last one left in the world. If anyone knows of where to get one of these things, please post back here!

I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, but I don't think that chip is your problem. The machine is having an issue communicating with the top-box bonus. As you've discovered, there aren't many people at all who have experience with the AC Coin S+ bonus games.

Just some random ideas to try and get you some help:

I see that a working Empire King was sold on eBay by "Texas Slots and Gaming" in March of 2014, and they claimed in their listing for it that they had refurbished the machine, so it might be possible one of their employees may be familiar with the nuances of the machine. I guess it couldn't hurt to ask, although I don't know what kind of response (if any) you'll get from them: http://www.texasslotsandgaming.com/

Some discussion of AC Coin and a brief mention of Empire King on the old site, here: http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4432.0

Finally, you could try the Slot Tech Forum to see if any of the real-life casino techs there remember the AC Coin S+ games like Empire King and might have some ideas for you. For the most part, that site has active techs dealing with today's technology, not a relative antique like your machine, but there's not much to lose by asking: http://www.slottechforum.com/

TheBrave · « **Reply #90 on:** April 23, 2016, 01:28:22 PM »

No you're definitely not a Debbie Downer. I'm starting to think you're right. I cold-called an old-timer and he told me that he remembered working on one of these particular slots which had the same issue. He told me he didn't replace any hardware but rather he needed a different clear chip to fix it. Unfortunately, he didn't remember what chip it was.

I did manage to get my hands on an IVC103 from JJ Slots, but it didn't come with instructions so don't know if I'm using it right. When I put the board back in with the 103, I pressed the test button a couple of times but nothing happened. The only thing on the display is a zero in the credits.

Does anyone know how to use the IVC103? Are there any special procedures? I was using as I would an IVC123.

Johnny

Haywire Slots · « **Reply #91 on:** May 17, 2016, 05:41:40 PM »

Quote from: TheBrave on January 21, 2016, 03:39:42 PM

I've been looking thru the NLG trying to find photos of how those black boxes are supposed to be hooked up. Can anyone direct me to a link to another post, or maybe put up a few pics? I'd like to make some comparisons if I can.

I'm adding a few other photos here of what I have. The bottom line is that I don't know what's supposed to be hooked in or not. Both of my black boxes are not active with the flashing LED's so I'd like to see how others are wired up.

Johnny

Here is a pic of the 2 com boards in the S+ a/c coin Merlin I am currently working on. #1 goes to serial interface plug on bally mastercom unit on the bottom right side of the top box. #2 goes to the 2 red splice connectors at the motherboard which are then plugged into J13 & J14. #3 is connected to the same red connectors as #2. #4 goes to the orange molex connector TB81 in the top box. Hope this helps.

TheBrave · « **Reply #92 on:** May 20, 2016, 09:39:32 AM »

That's a great photo and it does help! Let me have another look and see if I can trace them out. Again. haha

As for the IVC103, I ended up sending it back to JJ Slots as it may have been no good. They're sending me another to try.

Johnny

knagl · « **Reply #93 on:** May 21, 2016, 12:41:18 AM »

Good Karma to Slam for taking the time to post that potentially very helpful photo, and to Johnny (TheBrave) for sticking with this -- your refusal to give up is great!

TheBrave · « **Reply #94 on:** May 23, 2016, 06:52:03 PM »

Ok Slam, so all of the wires you describe are indeed attached where they should be, except for #1. That wire is not in my machine. I don't know exactly where it's supposed to go in the top box. The only thing I have in there, on the lower right, is an AC Coin sound interface card which has all of its connectors plugged in. Check the pics.

If you have another pic of the other end of that one connector it would definitely help. I feel like this might be the missing part.

I got a replacement IVC103 from JJ Slots, but I'd like to try this first before running it.

One thing's for sure, I am so glad there's someone else that has one of these IGT/AC Coin FrankenSlots as I do! Thank you again!

Johnny

Ken · « **Reply #95 on:** May 24, 2016, 01:47:54 PM »

Is this the same board that you are missing the harness for?

TheBrave · « **Reply #96 on:** May 24, 2016, 03:07:27 PM »

Yep that's the one. I don't know where it attaches from there....going up, I mean.

Johnny

Haywire Slots · « **Reply #97 on:** May 24, 2016, 03:12:51 PM »

Here's where that missing wire goes.

TheBrave · « **Reply #98 on:** May 24, 2016, 05:46:47 PM »

So now I know. That board is not there either! Seems I'm missing a few guts to this thing. I'll have to see if anyone has one of those boards for sale. And I'll have to figure out where the other connectors go too.

It's a little weird that there's a bally board in there, but maybe it's normal?

The pic shows that it probably was there at some point, but not anymore.

Thank you very much for your help, Slam. I never would have known!

Johnny

knagl · « **Reply #99 on:** May 24, 2016, 11:53:38 PM »

The board in Slam's reply (#97) is a Bally Mastercom board, which was typically used to interface between a slot machine and the casino's player tracking unit (the "frequent gambler" player's card reader) and network. While I can't swear to it since I don't know how those AC Coin hybrid machines worked, it is unlikely that you'll need a Mastercom board for the machine to work in a stand-alone configuration.

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