Author Topic: Where do I start? (Read 11075 times)

ucanwin · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:31:39 AM »

This is the best that I can do without disassembling the unit.

Jon · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2016, 11:40:49 AM »

so if I'm understanding you correctly with the paper covering all contacts but that one the hopper motor will run

ucanwin · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2016, 12:20:28 PM »

Not exactly. What I did was remove the paper starting from the bottom one contact at a time. The hopper did not begin to run until I removed the paper from the top contact.

As I am writing this...I went back to the machine and put a piece of paper under just the #7 contact and closed the door. The hopper did not run. I opened the door, and pulled the paper out, expecting the hopper to start running when I closed the door.....but it did not. Now, when I close the door the insert coin light is lit but it will not accept a coin. The coin lockout relay is not energizing. If I open the door and hold the lockout back and drop a coin through, is shows coin accepted (but will only accept one coin) and the handle relay does not release the handle. But the relay on the side of the mechanism (opposite the handle) energizes, so I know that the relay coil is okay. I'm sure that you are probably about as confused as to what is going on as I am. Thank you so much for taking your valuable time to try to help me with this nightmare.

Jon · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2016, 12:39:10 PM »

Ok okay off to electrical circuits if you have not downloaded the Bally's em manual from the file system I recommend you do then we can be on the same page page number 18

ucanwin · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:01:06 PM »

Okay, I downloaded the EM Manual. I tried to print out page 18 but it will only print two thirds of the width, so I have a copy of Marshall Fey's book on Bally machines and he has the same info on pages 20 & 21.
I did notice that your page 18 and also my page 20-21 are for 5 coin machines and mine is a 3 coin. Does that make a big difference?

Jon · « **Reply #25 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:26:45 PM »

no it does not it makes no real difference with the exception of a five-point has more X units and more steps in the Step Up unit

I have never seen the fries en Manuel I've been trying to find a copy to download but everybody wants money for it and like most people I'm cheap

ucanwin · « **Reply #26 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:31:59 PM »

Let it be known....I am not smarter than a fifth grader! I look at the schematics and admit, I am stupid! I can read mechanical drawings but when it comes to schematics....I am lost in space.

Jon · « **Reply #27 on:** March 20, 2016, 01:44:43 PM »

and that is why we need to be reading from the same book

DavidLee · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:13:37 PM »

From the photo of the door the machine appears to be a 1088.
The top contact on the payout step up appears to be the feed wire/ contact strip.
Three photos attached, the schematic is for a 1090 machine. The other two are from a 1088.
Jon, laminated my schematics like you recommended, works great for tracing out wires.

Jon · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:17:56 PM »

Dave do you have a PDF of that schematic I would love to have a copy for a 1090 if not I will give you the money to go have one scanned in

and any other schematics you may have please Dave

ucanwin · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:28:24 PM »

Jon, I think these two pages are the same as the ones in the EM Manual, Pages 18 & 19 correct?

Jon · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:43:28 PM »

this gives you an idea of how it gets its power it comes through the coins swhich is on the side of the real machine the biggest problem is the dashpot

Jon · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:46:35 PM »

if the dashpot is not returning all the way or sticky it will never put power to the handle release solenoid

ucanwin · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:52:10 PM »

The problem for me is that it gives the color code 52-1 at the handle release coil to the dashpot 57-1 but it doesn't give me (the dummy) the color codes in between the two points. That would make it easier for me to follow.

Jon · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:58:13 PM »

first off the color code on that page is not right for your machine I can just about guarantee you

dr. Dash pots which have one or two switches on it?

ucanwin · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:21:21 PM »

The dashpot moves freely. There are two sets of contacts on my dashpot. Both sets are closed at the end of the cycle and have continuity.
Coin lockout and handle release are not functioning.

Jon · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:27:40 PM »

I am trying to sell my house I have to show it in a few minutes so I will get in the manual here in a minute and tell you what I want you to do.
Do you have a jumper wire with two alligator clips on it?

ucanwin · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2016, 04:45:41 PM »

Good Luck with selling your house. We have one to sell too that we moved from 10 years ago. Had tenants in it for about 3 1/2 years. Other than that, it has been empty and a cash drain.
Yes I do have jumpers.

DavidLee · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2016, 05:18:57 PM »

Sending schematic for the handle release and coin lockout coils.

ucanwin · « **Reply #39 on:** March 20, 2016, 05:26:24 PM »

Thank you David Lee. Hopefully, I will be able to follow it.

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