S2000 Triple Lucky 7's - TITO & BV

[stlscott]

So, it's taking in the tickets, holding it for a second, then rejecting it back out of the bill bezel?
What is the sas validation type set for?
You should have it set on "System Mode"
Voucher should be on "SAS"
Or try inserting your TITO ticket a different way?
Maybe all the sensors aren't working right in your bill acceptor head.
Dirty optical lens or something.

Yes it takes the ticket in without issue, holds for a second or two and then spits it back out the Bill Bezel.  I've tried all 4 directions for the tickets without any success, ever.  I've tried about 20 different ticket printouts from both printers with different amounts...test test test is my motto.  No success, not once.
I will have to double-check those two settings you mentioned, do you know the option #s for those so I make sure I'm looking at the right place?  I followed the guides step by step and keep having the same results.  I've also Cleared/Keyed these two machines a couple of times and set it back up over again (because of the clear).  The "clear" was not for this issue, was another problem I was dealing with that required it.
I've also cleaned everything on the heads and both take any denomination bill even including the new 100's with stripe/color.  Bills (unless seriously damaged) are taken just fine on the first try, every time.

Thank you again for all your help!
Scott

[hotlsot]

If your tito settings are correct and you bv is functioning properly the problem is elsewhere. There is a power supply in your power distribution box that plays with the communication board. If bad or no voltage is coming out of that power supply tito will not work.

[qbert]

Quick test if service light comes on when you open the main door the power supply hotshot is talking about is getting power. Does not mean the communication board is good but it should be getting power

[stlscott]

Quick test if service light comes on when you open the main door the power supply hotshot is talking about is getting power. Does not mean the communication board is good but it should be getting power

The Service light - on Triple-Double-Diamond the light works with the door switch, on Triple Lucky 7's the light does not work (never has).  Neither machine TITO works with the same symptoms...

[stlscott]

If your tito settings are correct and you bv is functioning properly the problem is elsewhere. There is a power supply in your power distribution box that plays with the communication board. If bad or no voltage is coming out of that power supply tito will not work.

Which wires should I test for voltages and what should the voltages be (on which Colors)?

[stlscott]

I've seen this problem created by a bad communication board or a bad power supply in the distribution box on the bottom back of the machine.

I'd be surprised that both of my machines both have bad COM boards, I've been told by other slots-guys that while the ribbon cable goes bad, the units themselves rarely fail.  However, that being said, I ordered one from a friend from a working machine and will swap it in when it arrives.  This machine is all fixed and complete except for BV ticket issues.  GRRRR

[Stayouttadabunker]

What happens if you hold this button in for like 5 seconds?

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[stlscott]

What happens if you hold this button in for like 5 seconds?

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I will try that, what is it supposed to do?

Also, the LED on the board flashes quickly (not slowly).  That is supposed to indicate successful communication, right?

[Stayouttadabunker]

I have no idea what that button does on that model TITO.
It's probably just a reset button...soooo, reset it.
If you press the Service button on deck twice, it puts credits to the machine?
Push and hold it for 5 seconds, then close the door and see if the Service button gives credits to the machine.

Also, which PDU is this TITO board plugged into?
The top photo in Reply#24 doesn't have any TITO COMM cable plugged into it.
Try to concentrate on one machine only...you're only making it more difficut for yourself, and everyone else that's trying to help you.
One you get this one fixed, the other one will be easier.

[stlscott]

I have no idea what that button does on that model TITO.
It's probably just a reset button...soooo, reset it.
If you press the Service button on deck twice, it puts credits to the machine?
Push and hold it for 5 seconds, then close the door and see if the Service button gives credits to the machine.

Also, which PDU is this TITO board plugged into?
The top photo in Reply#24 doesn't have any TITO COMM cable plugged into it.
Try to concentrate on one machine only...you're only making it more difficut for yourself, and everyone else that's trying to help you.
One you get this one fixed, the other one will be easier.

Service Button twice - Gives credits no problem
I will try the Hold for 5-second test and let you know
Reply#24 - One Pic is the board it's plugged into, I was asking about which wire (colors) to test for voltages - Ohter pic just showing to ask about which color wires for testing or which harness.  I didn't have a better pic of my machine handy at the time.  I took better pics of mine last night   

[qbert]

Just to be sure, are you sure you have every one of these machine settings exactly?
https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=319.msg911#msg911

[stlscott]

Just to be sure, are you sure you have every one of these machine settings exactly?
https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=319.msg911#msg911

I have gone thru this list on both machines 4x so far.  I will run thru it again tonight.  I used the list in the STICKY, not this specific link.

[stlscott]

What happens if you hold this button in for like 5 seconds?

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I pressed that button, the lights turned off and back on, did not make any difference.

[stlscott]

Just to be sure, are you sure you have every one of these machine settings exactly?
https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=319.msg911#msg911

I went thru this checklist (keying required) and verified that every setting is exactly as it is on the check list. 

Are there WBA BV heads that aren't compatible?  I know the Lower unit is flashed (Spin made sure for me)...

I also held the SERVICE button down for 5 seconds and it added credits (just once), so hitting it twice or holding it down adds credits.

I also ordered a unit from titoathomeboards to make sure that I'm not having issues with this TITO (Better Tito).

[stlscott]

I wanted to provide an update on this issue.  So after all of the other trying, I found someone else on NLG that had a couple of BV heads for the WBA 12.  I slid them in and each one worked just fine at taking tickets.  So the issue really was the BV heads not working right... I didn't set/change/alter/KEY anything else, so it really was the heads that were not willing to take the tickets.  I sent the non-working ones off to Tim - hope he has some success!