Author Topic: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090 (Read 88609 times)

David Walz · « **Reply #160 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:49:12 AM »

All of this information that I'm getting here is beneficial for the next person who is working on a Bally slot machine. It's not going to waste.

It's like a mad scientist on the loose, reanimated a dead slot machine, like mine.

I cannot emphasize how this will help the next person who is uneducated about slot machines looking for answers just like myself.

Since Bally has duplicated many things from one slot machine to another this information can help out other Bally slot machine owners.

David Walz · « **Reply #161 on:** May 17, 2018, 12:11:47 PM »

Great news, I contacted The Pinball Resource Jimmy is who I talked with on the phone. I emailed Jimmy, who responded within a couple of hours, he was professional, polite, and responded quickly and overall it was a great transaction. Anyone that needs a coil, Jimmy is the go to guy.

I just wish some of the "other" slot machine companies selling Bally parts were as professional as Jimmy was to me.

Thanks to the members here for the reference, it was great.

David Walz · « **Reply #162 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:17:12 PM »

The call light is working now, it's blinking like it should, when I bought the slot machine it didn't have the call light, or the wiring, it was ripped out of the 1090. Thankfully I had the wiring diagram, and the correct replacement wires. Now I'm waiting for the correct topper.

New switch came in and it has been installed, the out of service sign came in also.

Can you tell I'm sooo excited about getting the small stuff working.

David Walz · « **Reply #163 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:33:13 PM »

By the way: A young male moose came by to visit my home today.

David Walz · « **Reply #164 on:** May 17, 2018, 04:13:11 PM »

I have to admit, that out of service sign is awesome. You don't see that every day.

Johnny · « **Reply #165 on:** May 17, 2018, 04:44:28 PM »

Greetings,

I'm very new here, sometime in the 90's I was active on this board, which I think the site address has changed but same great people at New Life Games. I have a 1973 Bally "Play Haves" machine that still works beautifully, but now not paying on large combinations, BAR & BELLS on up. I like your machine, but I'm definitely starting green here with the proper posting and so on. I know there are folks out here that still have a great love working on and playing these old electromechanical slots. I wish you great success with your restoration.

David Walz · « **Reply #166 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:30:32 PM »

These forum guys are cool, I'm talking about the ones that have posted on my pages, since I'm new here and I don't know everyone on the forum. The interaction with them has been positive, helpful, and they point you in the right direction.

Outside the form, contacting some business selling slot machine parts has been disappointing trying to just get them to answer emails, answer the phone in a professional manor, and just send parts. It took me two months just to get a order sent to me from one business, another was unprofessional, one business I called had children screaming in the background, and one business was just rude.

Searching the internet, sometimes outside the United States can produce results, eBay has some parts, sometimes it pays to contact a seller and ask them if they have parts you are looking for, I've had forum members here sell me parts which was really great.

We are going to have speed bumps when dealing with something like electrical mechanical machines, knowing that parts are difficult to source, especially when they are 40+- years old.

David Walz · « **Reply #167 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:36:18 PM »

On to my next missing part, an electrical door lock, that will probably work on most of the Bally slot machines of the 1970's. If you have one in your hand, let me know.

David

david@wasillalocksmith.com

I spent some time looking for this today with no such luck.

I'll work on it some more tomorrow.

You think if I can locate the other parts that were "obsolete" this would not be all that hard to locate. More coffee needed.

Good news, I have a forum member who has one he is helping me with.

David Walz · « **Reply #168 on:** May 19, 2018, 04:49:40 PM »

I've got the two wires back into the door wiring just like the photos of a 1090 slot machine. I still have to do some catgut wrapping on the wiring bundle.

Amechanic found the coil assembly (that's his photo of the coil assembly), now he's looking for the bracket, he's been a great help to source parts.

I am almost completely finished with the slot machine, and I'll stop pestering everyone.

David Walz · « **Reply #169 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:05:16 AM »

Being a novice here I need to have all the help I can get. When dissembling a slot machine like mine you can get lost with the wiring harness. Having something like cue cards helps from getting lost in the rats nest of wiring. Since the Molex connectors are similar, you can plug them incorrectly unless you study the wiring attached to the connectors. A simple technique for me is temp tags that can be removed at anytime. I know that it's not a Bally feature, however when your eyeballs are full of wires the tags are great to use.

David Walz · « **Reply #170 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:20:59 AM »

The meters are complete, I've found the" in decal" on another meter and glued it on to the meter missing one. The meters wires from the slot machine reels were cut short, I didn't want to make it ugly by splicing which is a big FUBAR. So I put a Molex connector and that will take care of the whole issue. It's amazing that wires are cut and left to short other things out in the slot machine. Tying them down to the reel frame keeps the wiring from getting tangled with the reel assembly, and the cabinet.

If you see the label " swing up" refers to the reel lock. The reel locks were coming down when I first got them and I realized immediately that they were wrong, which were allowing the reels to migrate back and forth.

David Walz · « **Reply #171 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:29:26 AM »

I noticed the factory wrote on the wiper assembly, which is correct, however I noticed the $ on each wiper. Does that mean it was a $1.00 slot machine?

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The wipers are correct for the machine everything is marked 1090-29.

David Walz · « **Reply #172 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:32:48 AM »

More wiper photos on the reels.

David Walz · « **Reply #173 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:35:44 AM »

The reels look really good for its age, I have the meter wires tucked away from the reel, and the bottom of the reel assembly, when the reels slides out the meter meter wiring will not get tangled.

David Walz · « **Reply #174 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:51:59 AM »

When I was looking for a " missing wiring" on the hopper or a bent switch on the reels I found photos here that helped me overcome a major issue. So here is some wiper wiring that has not been buggered with.

David Walz · « **Reply #175 on:** May 20, 2018, 11:55:31 AM »

The picture is of the florescent light assembly for the upper reel light. The picture is of the door switch that I reset back to factory, it was bent preventing the door switch from operating properly. The door switch is factory, the florescent parts were butchered. The picture is of the handle release, the wiring is complete, also the reset button is original.

Like I said I'm a novice so having cue cards that are easily removed is the way to go for me. They don't detract from the value of the slot machine.

David Walz · « **Reply #176 on:** May 20, 2018, 12:04:32 PM »

I still think the hopper cover looks sweet. It's really not a burden having it installed, since the slot machine is not being used full time it should be fine, and the holes in the cover provide adequate filling for the quarters to be filled into the hopper.

You don't see that hopper cover every day do you.

It was worth two months of "professionally" prodding the business representative and finally getting the hopper cover. This business representative was not rude, unprofessional (like some of the other companies who sell parts) the representative was in my opinion forgetful and he was a older person. Still he was polite and did deliver the cover..

David Walz · « **Reply #177 on:** May 20, 2018, 01:22:38 PM »

One more thing, I found a authentic, a Bally keychain for my slot machine. Totally cool, I have all of the locks keyed alike to the original Chicago Ace II keys, and original Chicago Ace II key covers.

David Walz · « **Reply #178 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:19:23 PM »

First thing!!!

I just got the slot machine up and running, so I started checking the payouts, well the new hopper motor assembly did the trick. The payout are nat's ass on every payout. If you have been keeping up on my postings I've been having trouble with the payout spitting out extra quarters erratically. I just didn't go out and buy this motor, I first serviced everything that could cause a erratic payout behavior.

Thanks to the members who helped me here the problem is solved.

David Walz · « **Reply #179 on:** May 21, 2018, 05:17:48 PM »

Second thing:

I just got the coil for the upper cabinet. And when the machine is turned on it energized, so I'm like WTF? Well I started reading the wiring diagram and I discovered that when the hopper is full of coins its energized, when the hopper is empty it is de-energized. The coin diverter is where the power is sent to, when the hopper is full or empty. I tried this for awhile and that is what the switch does, it is controlled by the hopper micro switch.

Now it makes sense why the old coil plastic was so brittle.

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