Author Topic: need help with my 5000 plus (Read 19269 times)

athomegambler · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2015, 10:01:13 AM »

Hi a little update on what i have been doing,,, ok may have made things worse not sure?

i have the bally keypad to be able to do some testing but i need to get the machine into a clear state to do that,,, so i have again been doing checks of wires ,,, voltages,,, boards etc,,, i removed the reels by unpluging them and then removed the complete assy then check the reel boad,,, looked fine... then put it back,,i pulled out both one and a time the mpu and the in and out boards and after doing that i again got on the led meters and grouping of numbers something like 1798 and 3489 the same numbers that are shown on the photos in my early posts,,, whatever i did got rid of the 82 and back to what it was at the start.... only thing is when i was getting the 82 code,,, the quarters would not drop into hopper they just passed thru and now the quarter are going into the hopper ,,, also and maybe one of you can explain this to me,,,, now when i turn the machine on the two red led on the mpu board are flashing ,,, is this what they are supposed to be doing?

before when i started up the machine when i had the 82 code they would come on for a second or two then go off,,,,,the other thing i did after reading in the manual was to turn off the machine then pull out the in and out board just enough to remove it from the main board and leave the ribbon cables connected turn on the machine then turn it back off and reseat the board and turn it back on again,,,,, is this what made everything return to where it was,,, like i said seems like some things got better but i am just not sure,,,,, have not been able to fine in the manual for sure about the red led flashing so please tell me if that is good i need to get it to clear so i can use the keypad please help any ideas on what to do next thanks

Jim · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:51:30 AM »

read this post! the people who responded to that post are the people who could help get your machine going. the only thing we ever used the keypad for was to enable the credit mode, and set the jackpot limits. after clearing it , the machine goes back to a default setting, which doesn't include credit options.

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4673.0

Jim

athomegambler · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2015, 12:33:17 PM »

thanks jim that post is very close to what i have on my machine,,,, first part about the battery being low or discharged sounds right,,, the guy i got it from had it unpluged for a long time in the garage,,, (he said he did replace the battery and the other day i pulled the mpu board out after having it on for a little over a hour and we did get little over 3 volts from it) ,,, i also have it in my garage and i am not keeping it plugged in and on all the time and with temps here below 32 at night i am sure i am having battery issues,,,right now i have in plugged in and charging up,,, i know today when i first plugged it in the quarters would not go into the hopper but after it started to warm up and i messed with the boards and reseating the quarters again went into the hopper ok,, so again all this about the battery and the temp warming up must be part of the problem... Now reading the rest of the post and looking at the photos his after doing the first part of trying to clear the ram,, he got what looked like PPPP on the leds , on mine they look like all 8888 but again could be part of battery problem and cold weather... so could you explain a little more in detail on how to do the two other types of clearing the ram,,,, the jumper and the moving of the jumper on the mpu board I would like to try those to see if i can get it to clear my ram.... thanks for all the help

Jim · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2015, 01:26:26 PM »

I cannot help you with this problem, I was trying to put you in touch with the people who really know these machines. The people are listed in that post reply.

Jim

athomegambler · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2015, 01:45:53 PM »

Hi ok i understand and thanks again,,, it does help and i have been reading more in the manual about the clearing of the ram,,,,

athomegambler · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2015, 03:29:45 PM »

Hi well have been out in the garage trying some more things today,,,, i rec a set of clear chips for the 5000plus so pulled the mpu board and from reading the manual saw what to do to remove the piggy back boards and replaced the U12 and U15 chips put everything back in and was hopefull that this would do something,,, like clear the board but did not seem to do anything,,,, their must be something else going on?

any ideas,,,, the battery voltage was up over 4 volts the readout on the leds were showing the same numbers as before changing the chips... I tried reseating the in and out and the mpu boards a couple of times and still did not change anything... help!!!

metex · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2015, 10:36:12 PM »

BALLY GAMING

TILT CODES

20   Coin in jam
21   Inappropriate Coin
22   Invalid coin
23   Coin not sensed
24   Coin Reverse
30   Hopper overpay
31   Hopper coin-out Jam
32   Hopper empty
33   Reset during payout
40-45 Reel error
50 Slot door open
54 Drop door open
60 Reset during bill change
70 Door open during reel spin
71-75 Reel movement improper
80   Rom checksum error
81   Low Battery
82   Door open during power down
83   Safe Ram error
83f Safe Ram format error
84   Ram error
90   Display error
91   Communication error

athomegambler · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2015, 08:34:23 AM »

hi thanks to everyone for the help,,, i do have the error codes,, my problem is now not being able to clear the machine so i can do the tests,,, i have the keypad and manuals ,,,, i have another question,,,, the clear chips that i tried,,,, i put the piggy back chip packs back on the mpu board before i put back into the mach to try to clear and it did not work,,, was i suppose to leave that off to clear the board,,,, also i found another mpu board for sale,,, should i buy it,,, not to much money but not sure it is in working condition either,,,,just can not understand why i am not able to get the slot to clear,,,,,, i kept the mpu board inside last night and just tested the batter and it is at 3.86 volts so going to take it out and try again to see if i can get it to clear the ram,,,,, again any ideas thanks

metex · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2015, 12:37:55 PM »

Try this to clear completely the ram,take off the battery by desoldering it,wait about 30 sec then resolder it and start your machine, if everything is ok, you won't see any tilt code except door open.this method is the hard way to clear the ram.let me know the result

athomegambler · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2015, 12:58:45 PM »

Hi ok but have a question first... i still have the clear chips in the mpu board,,,, should i put the reg program chips back in first.... thanks

athomegambler · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2015, 01:43:03 PM »

Hi well we are getting some life out of it now!!!! Here is what i did and in order what came up on the led display panel.....first i put the U12 and U15 prog chips back in and reinstalled the mpu board,,,, turn on switch and all three of the reels started turning slow,,, also in the win a 5.2 in left corner then in right corner a 4.6 these were coming on and off in that order ,,, also had in the last in at bottom a F ,,,,, then i pushed in the door open switch at the bottom of the machine and a JP came on in the paid and the 5.2 was replaced with JP which alternated on and off with the 4.6 to the far left and the JP to the far right up in the WIN ........then i reached into the machine and pushed in the switch mounted inside where the key reset would be and the three reels stopped and now have OO in the WIN EE in the paid nothing in credit and have a 6 in last in at the bottom and 1 in the coin at the bottom.........

please explain I left the slot machine turned on with this showing on the leds and shut the door,,, no change with anything,,,,,, I tried a couple of quarter but they just fell thru to the bottom tray.......i really did not expect them to count but wanted to see so i could give you all the info i could.....we are getting life out of it now,,,, great....... what is the next step now,,,, are we ready to plug in the keypad for test or

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athomegambler · « **Reply #31 on:** February 13, 2015, 02:08:49 PM »

Hi just went back out to check to see if anything had changed on the disply,,, all the same so i started pushing in the buttons on the play panel with the door closed,,, nothing happed untill i got to the button press for service when i pushed it in the three reels again started spinning slow just as they did before,,, 4.6 and JP in the win came on again JP came on again in the paid and F again shows up down at bottom in LAST IN ,,,, I again open the lower door and pushed the reset switch as i did the first time and everything went back to OO in the WIN EE in PAID and at bottom back to 6 IN LAST IN AND 1 IN COIN IN so just wanted to update again what is next thanks

athomegambler · « **Reply #32 on:** February 13, 2015, 05:33:20 PM »

Hi another up today has been very good day,,,,went back out and ran several resets watching what happens each time,,,, also after each reset i pushed the press for severice button again watching it,,, it goes thru a number of tests with numbers in the win leds starting with 1000 and continues up thru 2700 then goes to 00 in the win EE in paid blank nothing in the credits and it had last in 6 and coin in 1.... did this like i said a number of times then,,, i turned off the power switch and waited about a minute and turn back on,,,, and got to a point where i just had 00 in the win and a 0 also in the paid credits blank and at that point i pressed the pseudo coin button with the door open on the dist board,,,,,got 2 on the coin in at the bottom and shut the doors hit the spin button and we got the reels to spin full speed,,,,i did this several times and then i hit a pay combination and got a 4 up in the wins,,,, ok very happy got all this working today,,,, now for the bad,,,, now i have a code 32 up in the win at the left corner and the 4 in the right corner,,,, i checked and i know that is 32 for pay-out mty( i dont have anything in the hopper and not even sure if it will work) and the 4 is for a 4 quarter win pay,,,, it shows 0 in the paid still blank nothing in the credits and down at the bottom in last in shows 2 and coin in shows 2 for the two times i pressed the pseudo coin button,,,, now how do i clear the 32 mty pay out error code,,,,,,, i hope there is a way to clear this out,,, anybody can help me on this,,,, dont want to have to pull the mpu boards again and change the chips if i dont have too thanks

athomegambler · « **Reply #33 on:** February 14, 2015, 08:32:58 AM »

HI another update ,,,went out to garage (very cold ) wanted to see in the cold and overnight if it would still hold its memory and work as it did before, had the same code flashing back and forth between 32 and 4,,, tried to do a couple of resets by pushing the reset button and turning on and off power but could not clear the code,, then i tried turning off power and pulled out the in and out board( leaving the ribbon cables connected and turned on the power,,,, now this is working fine to do a soft clear( that would not work before) but it did a CH then after a couple of seconds went to CL put the board back and turned the power back on and the machine went thru the reg series of numbers then the code changed to 31 , checked the code and it now was a coin payout jam, i tried it again and got the same code, then i thought maybe if i put the hopper back in( still dont know for sure if the hopper will work) plugged the cable from the hopper back into the board and turned the slot on and it cleared the coin jam after i pushed the the switch that goes to the keyreset...... i then opened and closed the lower door several times,,, now we also have the correct code coming up for the door when the lock key is turned and when the door is in the open position and WIN went to O and paid went to O and credits show nothing bank and the lower showed 6 for coins played and coins in now was O, I was very happy and went to try the quarters into the mach to see if it would play ,,,, put two quarters in and they both showed up on the coins in,,,,, hit the play button and it worked,,,, all three reels spinning and stopped as it should.....I stopped there not wanting to get into a win again,,, now need to go thru the hopper and make sure it will work........ I posted all this to help anyone else that may run into the same problems with the bally 5000plus..... i still have a lot of things to do,,,, want to get handle to work and dont have lights on the buttons working but i am very happy thanks again for all the help you have given me to get this far

athomegambler · « **Reply #34 on:** February 14, 2015, 12:12:29 PM »

Hi another update,,, I worked on the hopper today and filled it with about 300 quarters to try it,,,, it seems to be working fine,, counts out the correct number of win/paid,,, put about 200 pays thru the machine for testing,,, see photos of a 40 win payout ,,,, now need to work on the other items not working,,,, will be trying to get the button lights to work,,, question do they have bulbs in them and are they replacements special ,, if so does anyone know the correct number and where to get them,,, also need to fine out why getting no sound at all, i know there is a sound board but still have to do reading to fine out more about it,,, also i know the bell up is not connect as i can see the wires ,,, also how do i remove the top glass to be able to get at the very top area thanks

CVslots · « **Reply #35 on:** February 14, 2015, 01:15:38 PM »

Buttons - The socket and the bulb are removed for replacement from inside the door. Look at the buttons from the inside/underside, and you will see where the switches attach. Wiggle the button "butt" (lol) back and forth, left to right and they will pop out. You know you've done it right when your knuckles are bleeding!

Bulb Replacement - Easiest way to find replacement part spec is to see what is in it now, and replace with exact (or something to it). Too hot of a bulb will melt the exterior lens.

Volume - Make sure sound is adjusted in menu. You can perform a sound test (if you can find one in the manual if still no sound to help troubleshoot.

Top Glass - Lift/Push up on glass towards top of cabinet to unseat it from the bottom retaining bracket, then gently lower it down and out of cabinet.

athomegambler · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:52:03 AM »

Hi thanks for the info,,, got the glass out,,, i had something loose with the top light,,, the long tube light works but sometimes it goes out the have to move it around to get it working agian,,, i will work on getting the bulbs and sockets out to see what kind of light (type size they take today) i worked wit the volume and i did get the sound to work with the toggle switch on the back board if i switch it to simple sound,,,, but so far have not been able to get the sound to work the other way,,,, is their any way to get , or hook up some additional speakers or add a small amp to make sound better

?? thanks

Badbaud · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:31:31 AM »

That 82 could be a low battery.

If it is a 3 legged type of rechargeable battery leave the machine on for a while and see if it charges back up. With power off, after charging, the battery should read higher than 3 volts DC.

If it is a lithium battery, not chargeable, check for a voltage of at least 3.4 volts DC. There is also a mod to the MPU board that needs to be made for the lithium battery to work properly.

Some diodes need to be added and some traces need to be cut.

If it reads lower you will need to replace it and do a clear.

There is a small adjustment on the black power supply to set the 5 volts to 5.16 volts. If the power supply won't adjust then you may need your power supply worked on.

You should be able to reach this adjustment without removing the power supply via a hole on top or on the side.

If you can't get the proper 5 volt setting you may need to send the power supply in for repair. Call Larry at 702-363-9998, he is a pro on the Bally 5000.

athomegambler · « **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2015, 02:28:16 PM »

Hi thanks for all the info and replys,,,, but i am way past that now,,, got it to reset and got it working now,,,,working on some of the small problems and some lights not working but thanks to all you guys and help i now have a working 5000plus machine,,,,

kboldin · « **Reply #39 on:** December 08, 2021, 11:57:15 PM »

Quote from: athomegambler on February 13, 2015, 01:43:03 PM

Hi well we are getting some life out of it now!!!! Here is what i did and in order what came up on the led display panel.....first i put the U12 and U15 prog chips back in and reinstalled the mpu board,,,, turn on switch and all three of the reels started turning slow,,, also in the win a 5.2 in left corner then in right corner a 4.6 these were coming on and off in that order ,,, also had in the last in at bottom a F ,,,,, then i pushed in the door open switch at the bottom of the machine and a JP came on in the paid and the 5.2 was replaced with JP which alternated on and off with the 4.6 to the far left and the JP to the far right up in the WIN ........then i reached into the machine and pushed in the switch mounted inside where the key reset would be and the three reels stopped and now have OO in the WIN EE in the paid nothing in credit and have a 6 in last in at the bottom and 1 in the coin at the bottom......... please explain I left the slot machine turned on with this showing on the leds and shut the door,,, no change with anything,,,,,, I tried a couple of quarter but they just fell thru to the bottom tray.......i really did not expect them to count but wanted to see so i could give you all the info i could.....we are getting life out of it now,,,, great....... what is the next step now,,,, are we ready to plug in the keypad for test or ??

I'm having very similar issues with resetting the safe ram (83), I bought the clear chips installed them and got nothing at the display. I then re-installed the original chips and same error code 83 at the display? Was I suppose to leave off the piggyback board?

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