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« Last post by LuckyDog on May 14, 2024, 04:39:37 PM »
Wondering if there are chipsets available for a PE+ Machine to play poker in tournament mode?
The "PE+ Master Program List" spreadsheet mentions "Tournament mode capable " , but I haven't found any other info Thanks
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« Last post by Todbedy on May 14, 2024, 04:30:56 PM »
Hi Jim,
I see this is quite an old post but wondering if you have any boards still for sale?
Thanks Chris
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The spin button on my mk6 stopped working. The button will light up, but does not respond to being depressed. You can hear the switch click, but no response. Moving the wire plug causes the light to go off and on, but the button test won't show it works. I suspect something in the harness. Dies anyone know what should be present on each of the wires connecting the spin button?
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« Last post by David Walz on May 14, 2024, 03:38:26 PM »
Yes. You can find the document that describes the SP611 in the downloads but that is a very old chip and you might consider moving to a newer one in the future.
The Reel Prom, where do I look for that number.
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« Last post by jay on May 14, 2024, 03:31:08 PM »
Yes. You can find the document that describes the SP611 in the downloads but that is a very old chip and you might consider moving to a newer one in the future.
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« Last post by David Walz on May 14, 2024, 03:27:18 PM »
A Reel chip which contains the theme of the machine is defined by a PAR sheet. PAR= Paytable and Reel. This is basically a description of the game, %% payback, reel strip numbers, all the real and virtual stops how many coins like 2 coin or 5 coin etc. There are no options to set but it does define the game TYPE.
Type 0 means no special features where as a Type 2 would be a nudge game like double diamond deluxe where the reels nudge up or down based on the direction of the diamond. Other themes like Balloon Bars only nudge up, and Slam Dunk only nudge down.
Subsequently you need to use a game chip that supports the TYPE as defined by the reel chip - almost all game chips support type 0 games while others pull support 0,2,5 etc
Each game chip basically contains an operating system. You can set all sorts of machine options. A PSR is a Program Summary Report that details what options there are and how to change those options.
For instance certain themes with a SP731 game chip would support a selection of 7 songs that play when you get a winning combination. The 1271 chip (much newer) is basically the same functionality but the song selection was dumped to make way for more accounting and statistical registers that the Nevada gaming board deemed mandatory.
The PSR would also tell you what SET chip to use. With the 1271 the set 90 chip can also be used to set an internal IGT progressive as well as allow compatibility with linked progressives (large overhead displays) that link a bank of machines together with a single shared progressive. With the 731 chip you use a basic SET 15 chip strictly for the bill validator.
Any S+ can be any theme and be a 1 coin, 2 coin, 3 coin, 5 coin, 1 line, 3 line, 5 line, 9line/9coin by simply having the matching Game and Reel chips along with the matching reel strips and glass.
There are also tournament chips that allow you to play as fast as you can for a set period of time or play a set number of credits. The combinations are pretty endless.
I have 3 S+ machines - two are the 9” top glass style (often called a chop top), and the other is the other 16” style. I have over 60 game kits and I have both 9” and 16” top glass for each.
Each machine has a IGT internal progressive that I use as the second award and then I have a linked progressive with a display in the player tracking bar of each machine and a 36” overhead display. I also have this linked into a PE+ video poker machine.
In a real casino you would never have a mix of slot and poker on the same progressive but it’s all compatible / doable and as I like to say my basement my rules ….
In my last house I had an 18’ progressive sign over my bar but my current place is not conducive to this so I am Still trying to figure out what to do with the spare parts that my wife will accept.
I believe I understand what you're saying, it make sense to me. The information I need is on the Game Prom, is that correct. SP611 is on the Game Prom.
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« Last post by sftechgeek on May 14, 2024, 03:20:19 PM »
I thought I would put down on paper/screen my thoughts of having just bought my 3rd slot machine, the IGT G20. Originally, I was holding out for a G23 because I heard the advantage of the larger screen, however, I picked up a G23 that was in great shape with all the OLED buttons functioning and within driving distance of my house. I wheeled it into the house and played the limited Game King selections along with some slot, keno, and blackjack games.
The first thing I had to figure out was how to adjust the volume. So after poking around with the diagnostic tool, I figured I needed to use the EKEY. After figuring that out, it was time to add and remove some of the games. Here are some general points:
1. These machines are basically computers with I/O devices. Why are they so slow? I think many of the tinkers of slots are mechanically/electrically inclined and I'm sure many are technicians like myself. I'm always amazed at how slow these things are and how long it takes to install software and reboot. I know most of these machines weren't meant to be loaded up with so many apps and used for the home. But engineers and programmers don't always think about these things in development.
2. Looking at the hardware, I would think the designers could make better use of the graphics? Seems like many of the themes are somewhat, cartoonish. I like Lucky Larry's Lobstermania, there's something about the games themselves that could better take advantage of the sound and graphics. I know these are 10 year old games but am I the only one that doesn't see much creativity in these games? Perhaps that's why there are new machines with better graphics and sound out there now. Maybe I'm just being critical and technology changes like cellular phones.
3. So is this why IGT has given way to Aristocrat, Ainsworth, Konami, WMS/SG, etc.? I know the Tribal Gaming in California have gone to the huge display slots. Is IGT the bargain brand?
4. I know it sounds like I'm complaining, I'm not. Or I'm injecting some observations and opinions based on my new machine which I am totally happy with. I have been told the G20 is an excellent machine to tinker with and get familiar with loading games. In that regard, it's been a great machine for me but I see myself already outgrowing this model.
I'm really thinking of a WMS Blade next or should I go with an Aristocrat?
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« Last post by jay on May 14, 2024, 03:08:45 PM »
A Reel chip which contains the theme of the machine is defined by a PAR sheet. PAR= Paytable and Reel. This is basically a description of the game, %% payback, reel strip numbers, all the real and virtual stops how many coins like 2 coin or 5 coin etc. There are no options to set but it does define the game TYPE.
Type 0 means no special features where as a Type 2 would be a nudge game like double diamond deluxe where the reels nudge up or down based on the direction of the diamond. Other themes like Balloon Bars only nudge up, and Slam Dunk only nudge down.
Subsequently you need to use a game chip that supports the TYPE as defined by the reel chip - almost all game chips support type 0 games while others pull support 0,2,5 etc
Each game chip basically contains an operating system. You can set all sorts of machine options. A PSR is a Program Summary Report that details what options there are and how to change those options.
For instance certain themes with a SP731 game chip would support a selection of 7 songs that play when you get a winning combination. The 1271 chip (much newer) is basically the same functionality but the song selection was dumped to make way for more accounting and statistical registers that the Nevada gaming board deemed mandatory.
The PSR would also tell you what SET chip to use. With the 1271 the set 90 chip can also be used to set an internal IGT progressive as well as allow compatibility with linked progressives (large overhead displays) that link a bank of machines together with a single shared progressive. With the 731 chip you use a basic SET 15 chip strictly for the bill validator.
Any S+ can be any theme and be a 1 coin, 2 coin, 3 coin, 5 coin, 1 line, 3 line, 5 line, 9line/9coin by simply having the matching Game and Reel chips along with the matching reel strips and glass.
There are also tournament chips that allow you to play as fast as you can for a set period of time or play a set number of credits. The combinations are pretty endless.
I have 3 S+ machines - two are the 9” top glass style (often called a chop top), and the other is the other 16” style. I have over 60 game kits and I have both 9” and 16” top glass for each.
Each machine has a IGT internal progressive that I use as the second award and then I have a linked progressive with a display in the player tracking bar of each machine and a 36” overhead display. I also have this linked into a PE+ video poker machine.
In a real casino you would never have a mix of slot and poker on the same progressive but it’s all compatible / doable and as I like to say my basement my rules ….
In my last house I had an 18’ progressive sign over my bar but my current place is not conducive to this so I am Still trying to figure out what to do with the spare parts that my wife will accept.
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« Last post by Chris-socal on May 14, 2024, 03:08:07 PM »
I'm so sorry, I'm getting my Ceronix conversations mixed, this is a PE, not a Fortune. You do need to verify the wires from monitor to back board but also trace them on the back board from source to pin out to the board. Or at least look for something that looks problematic (broken traces). Is this a PE or a PE Plus, I thought PE had black cable connectors that plugged directly into the board. This has back-board connectors.
One thought, I haven't looked at a PE board closely but any chance it has a transistor or color pot for each color? I can't see the picture clear enough. If there are 3 transistors next to each other on the board that's a good place to start. Same deal, you don't want any shorts. In your situation one of them would test like a diode (good), two would be different (shorted or open).
EDIT: Looks like you have a PE+ Super Board. Take a look in the NLG File system, there is a manual that has a circuit diagram. I highly suspect there is a color controller section on the board. If you can't find a blatantly obvious problem you might need to send the board into K-Lar.
Chris
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« Last post by David Walz on May 14, 2024, 02:48:55 PM »
Installation of the power cord, it goes inside of the cabinet.
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