Back lit reels stay dim. Amber lights.

[rickhunter]

For the record, my 3 reel light controller board looks exactly like yours and my harness is also missing those last 2 pins. 

[FORDF150]

For the record, my 3 reel light controller board looks exactly like yours and my harness is also missing those last 2 pins.

. If you have the same setup as mine does your back light reels work cuz I don't know if I have the right schematics that they sent me because half these plugs are not numbered the only plug that is numbered to plug that goes into the backlight board pins 13 + 14
They don't go to nowhere so I'm thinking maybe if I can jump those two pins maybe the lights might work or they're in the wrong spot the schematics that I have but I am thinking also maybe I don't have the right schematic for the backlight board

[Stayouttadabunker]

Pin-13 & Pin-14 are not occupied in that Molex housing on the harness that connects to the reel lamp controller board.
That's the way it says on the schematics and that's the way my harness is and it works fine.
In Reply #16 , I posted the schematics for the reel harness - not the schematics for the backlight board.

For your information, all Molex connections are marked....whether by numbers or symbols molded onto the housings.

[FORDF150]

Pin-13 & Pin-14 are not occupied in that Molex housing on the harness that connects to the reel lamp controller board.
That's the way it says on the schematics and that's the way my harness is and it works fine.
In Reply #16 , I posted the schematics for the reel harness - not the schematics for the backlight board.

For your information, all Molex connections are marked....whether by numbers or symbols molded onto the housings.

so are your highness the same as mind and your lights work well I just ordered another lamp board and I hope this one works because the one I get it and I still have the same problem that's got to be something else besides the board I would like to know what's the circuit that controls the lights does the cabinet card have anything to do with that

[Harvs]

There's an I/O card mounted to the side of the CPU cage that plugs into the controller. I don't think the board is the issue if you keep getting boards that don't work.. Like who would sell broken $20 parts on Ebay to scam people? Think they'd sell $200+ junk to make the hassle worth their while if they were knowingly selling broken shit..

[FORDF150]

There's an I/O card mounted to the side of the CPU cage that plugs into the controller. I don't think the board is the issue if you keep getting boards that don't work.. Like who would sell broken $20 parts on Ebay to scam people? Think they'd sell $200+ junk to make the hassle worth their while if they were knowingly selling broken shit..

I just want to buy a good product that works
If I buy this board and I got it it still does the same thing that means there's something else going on is there any chips in the mpu  board do I have to buy to make it work like SS chips or reel chip
Something I want to ask can I see pictures of inside of your machine it's probably the same setup as mine do you use the same 502 board


I'm about to send you my payments
send it first class

[Harvs]

If the bulbs light then the controller is powering them and the reel harness is plugged in. The I/O controls them to brighten when needed.. So try the I/O test to check each bulb and at least you'll know its communicating..

I'd hate to ship you this and you have the same issue. Like how many boards have you gone through, 2, 5?

[FORDF150]

If the bulbs light then the controller is powering them and the reel harness is plugged in. The I/O controls them to brighten when needed.. So try the I/O test to check each bulb and at least you'll know its communicating..

I'd hate to ship you this and you have the same issue. Like how many boards have you gone through, 2, 5?

I tried the I/O lamp test diagnostic about four times it's not communicating what's the bulbs
because I really don't want to buy Nother board off for you and have the same issue
They don't start the brighten up when you're on a winning symbol they just stay dim

[Ash100]

This is by far one of the best threads I've read in a long time.


My 2 cents worth, if it helps.


Recently I added backlit reels to 2 different games that never had them originally. One is a Double Diamond Deluxe and the second is an S+ Game in an S2000 Cabinet called Double Jackpot Haywire.


Neither game came with Backlit Reels, Controllers or Reel Harnesses. I borrowed Reels, Harnesses and other Hardware from donor cabinets, used the original MPU's, ordered Backlit Reel Strips and other pieces I didn't already have from a few of the vendors on here.


Needless to say, it was a plug and play conversion. No chip changes, different I/O Cards etc.


If you have the required components all hooked up in the right configuration,  yours should work just the same as mine are.


Dumb question, but are you using Backlit Reel Strips? I am not able to tell from any of your pictures. Sorry if you take that wrong, just want to be sure all bases are covered.


I would slow down, take a step back and look at everything once more and just be certain you are not overlooking the obvious. Check all connections for bent/missing pins, make sure plugs and components are properly seated, etc.


No one wants you to waste money on parts that you don't need. There are some excellent techs on this site and will help you any way that they can.


Another thing to check is your actual Bulbs in the Reels. Maybe they aren't the correct ones.


Just some thoughts.


Good luck, and you'll figure it out soon enough.


Curtis ash100

[Harvs]

If the bulbs light then the controller is powering them and the reel harness is plugged in. The I/O controls them to brighten when needed.. So try the I/O test to check each bulb and at least you'll know its communicating..

I'd hate to ship you this and you have the same issue. Like how many boards have you gone through, 2, 5?

I tried the I/O lamp test diagnostic about four times it's not communicating what's the bulbs
because I really don't want to buy Nother board off for you and have the same issue
They don't start the brighten up when you're on a winning symbol they just stay dim

Ok, no worries. Hope you figure it out.

[FORDF150]

This is by far one of the best threads I've read in a long time.


My 2 cents worth, if it helps.


Recently I added backlit reels to 2 different games that never had them originally. One is a Double Diamond Deluxe and the second is an S+ Game in an S2000 Cabinet called Double Jackpot Haywire.


Neither game came with Backlit Reels, Controllers or Reel Harnesses. I borrowed Reels, Harnesses and other Hardware from donor cabinets, used the original MPU's, ordered Backlit Reel Strips and other pieces I didn't already have from a few of the vendors on here.


Needless to say, it was a plug and play conversion. No chip changes, different I/O Cards etc.


If you have the required components all hooked up in the right configuration,  yours should work just the same as mine are.


Dumb question, but are you using Backlit Reel Strips? I am not able to tell from any of your pictures. Sorry if you take that wrong, just want to be sure all bases are covered.


I would slow down, take a step back and look at everything once more and just be certain you are not overlooking the obvious. Check all connections for bent/missing pins, make sure plugs and components are properly seated, etc.


No one wants you to waste money on parts that you don't need. There are some excellent techs on this site and will help you any way that they can.


Another thing to check is your actual Bulbs in the Reels. Maybe they aren't the correct ones.


Just some thoughts.


Good luck, and you'll figure it out soon enough.


Curtis ash100

this person that I was talking to yes the same machine as mine double diamond his back light reels work I still cannot get mine to work I was talk to another guy he tells me something to do with the logic circuit is not getting the lights to brighten up when when you're on a winning symbol
All the I/o cards are all good no thank pins

[FORDF150]

The cabinet type (9", 16", or round top) doesn't make any difference.  As long as the game software supports it (yours does) and the machine has all the necessary hardware installed (yours does), it will work if all the components work properly.  Looks like you've already determined the backlight controller board is bad.  Hopefully replacing that will resolve your problem.

. I'm going to send you a picture of my multimeter you tell me what setting I should have it on it has been a long time since I used it

[FORDF150]

That matches mine and my cabinet I/O is 75427601.

  here's the new board I got on ebay  I put it in to day and guess what this doesn't work either I don't know what to do
can it be something els
maybe am missing a component for this to work
can you send me pictures of the in side of your machine 

[sixcardmark]

Did you try swapping out that I/O card?

[Ash100]

It was suggested several times that it could be the I/O Card located on the side of the MPU Box.


Did you do the lamp tests?


Have you been reading what everyone is writing?


Stop jumping to conclusions about what's bad and not bad and listen to some advise. There are steps to follow while troubleshooting.


Do your Reel Lamp Tests and then let us know what you've got and we can go from there.


Curtis ash100

[Stayouttadabunker]

...I also noticed when I pulled the big plug from the backplane board the lights are still lit I wonder if that means anything...

By any chance, did you do this....with the power on?

[FORDF150]

It was suggested several times that it could be the I/O Card located on the side of the MPU Box.


Did you do the lamp tests?


Have you been reading what everyone is writing?


Stop jumping to conclusions about what's bad and not bad and listen to some advise. There are steps to follow while troubleshooting.


Do your Reel Lamp Tests and then let us know what you've got and we can go from there.


Curtis ash100

. What's the cabinet card have to do with the light's not coming on the answer to your question no I have not swapped out the cabinet card

[Stayouttadabunker]

What's the cabinet card have to do with the light's not coming on the answer to your question no I have not swapped out the cabinet card

The cabinet card that's attached the right side of the MPU box has a harness that runs directly up to the bottom left plug on the backlight board....take a look.

The cabinet card is P/N: 14930200
The harness from the cab. card to the backlight circuit board is P/N: 607-459-09 A

[FORDF150]

What's the cabinet card have to do with the light's not coming on the answer to your question no I have not swapped out the cabinet card

The cabinet card that's attached the right side of the MPU box has a harness that runs directly up to the bottom left plug on the backlight board....take a look.

The cabinet card is P/N: 14930200
The harness from the cab. card to the backlight circuit board is P/N: 607-459-09 A

. I might not know anything about this stuff would cabinet card have anything to do with the back lights not working

[Stayouttadabunker]

Change the cabinet card and we'll see right?
Mine works fine.
You haven't answered my question in Reply #71.

We need to rule out whether or not that cabinet card you have works or not.
You could have burned it out.
Are the numbers on the card & harness like what I've posted for you?