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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2024, 01:10:39 PM »
I agree with you SCM, but if he can find out if the encoder matches the coin head, it will go a long way to knowing what size hopper wheel shelf he'd need to have later?

OK we have photo's.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2024, 01:15:49 PM »
See the debris piling up on the bottom "C" optic? haha
How's the holes in the black plastics?
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2024, 04:13:58 PM »
See the debris piling up on the bottom "C" optic? haha
How's the holes in the black plastics?

Remember that this was one I just purchased, and I am going through everything, every part in the machine. Everything is dirty, reel glass is bad, it's another project that I enjoy doing.

I really need to find out information on just what coin denomination this was, or do I just start all over with whatever coin I want to use.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2024, 05:10:29 PM »
I would make it a quarter machine myself, those silver dollars are hard to find is why most all are now quarter machines. There is no way to know what that machine's denom or theme originally was, it could have already been changed out many times.

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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2024, 05:16:26 PM »
There is no model number that will tell you what it was.
It may have also changed during its service life.

Coin in is based on coin head. (External metal entry).
Coin comparitor cc-16 or cc-33.
The 16 is for small denominations up to a 1/2 dollar.
The 33 is for large denominations from $1 up to $100 tokens.
Both work the same way and are interchangeable.
They compare the metal content in the sample coin with what is dropped in.
I run mine off tokens that are in similar size to a quarter.
Next is the ABC optics it’s the small board below the comparitor.
This makes sure the coin is falling at the right speed and the right direction to prevent cheating.
The optic board has a spacer guide that makes sure the coin is sensed right.
Lastly there is the hopper. It would have a wheel in it to be able to eject a certain size of coin. As that is missing

You can set up the machine for the denomination of your choice.

Generally speaking if you had a cc-33 in the machine it’s likely a dollar slot or possibly a high denomination token. The latter being quite rare.

So take a Susan B coin and pass it through the coin head - if it passes your 98% sure it was a dollar slot.

The matching spacer in the optic is your final 2% assurance if that means anything.










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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2024, 07:23:51 PM »
There is no model number that will tell you what it was.
It may have also changed during its service life.

Coin in is based on coin head. (External metal entry).
Coin comparitor cc-16 or cc-33.
The 16 is for small denominations up to a 1/2 dollar.
The 33 is for large denominations from $1 up to $100 tokens.
Both work the same way and are interchangeable.
They compare the metal content in the sample coin with what is dropped in.
I run mine off tokens that are in similar size to a quarter.
Next is the ABC optics it’s the small board below the comparitor.
This makes sure the coin is falling at the right speed and the right direction to prevent cheating.
The optic board has a spacer guide that makes sure the coin is sensed right.
Lastly there is the hopper. It would have a wheel in it to be able to eject a certain size of coin. As that is missing

You can set up the machine for the denomination of your choice.

Generally speaking if you had a cc-33 in the machine it’s likely a dollar slot or possibly a high denomination token. The latter being quite rare.

So take a Susan B coin and pass it through the coin head - if it passes your 98% sure it was a dollar slot.

The matching spacer in the optic is your final 2% assurance if that means anything.
Thanks.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2024, 07:28:28 PM »
You took the coin-in optics apart but didn't show us a picture of the black plastic encoder guide?
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2024, 09:13:56 PM »
You took the coin-in optics apart but didn't show us a picture of the black plastic encoder guide?
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2024, 09:16:35 PM »
More:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2024, 09:32:13 PM »
More photos.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2024, 10:55:56 PM »
That is a $1 encoder guide. IKE silver dollar

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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, coin comparison issue!
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2024, 05:42:09 AM »
That is a $1 encoder guide. IKE silver dollar


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The mystery is solved!
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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