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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2018, 09:00:20 AM »
Crap.  Forgot my hopefully last question.  Is there a switch that will default the cash/credit button to credit?

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2018, 09:05:23 AM »
Did you try settings 5_0, 8_0

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2018, 05:57:53 PM »
well apparently there is a "next level" of programming that I haven't come across yet.  What is 5_0 and 8_0?
II was also wondering about my dip switch settings.  In the pics I posted what back in the beginning, you'll see that, at least to me, the 1234 are off and the 5678 are on.  I believe it should be the other way around..
Next question.  When shutting down, do you normally just unplug or open the door to shut it down, or just leave it on at all times?
We unplugged it Saturday night and it sat all day yesterday and today.   T he wife went down and plugged it in and we have new problems.  The lower light on the candle flashes fast, the winner paid flashes a 4 and the credits a 1 at the same time, and the coins played flashes a 2 alternatively.  Won't take coins.  tripped the reset, heard a click, then right back to this.  Any ideas

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2018, 12:36:20 PM »

You have two chips that run your machine.
One is the SP (game chip) and the SS (reel chip).


The reel chip is your theme and there is a document that supports it called a PaR sheet.
Stands for pay table and reel. It tells you about hit frequency and describes the game TYPE.
You can find most of the information in the IGt game bible under RICKs FAQ.


The TYPE of game ie determines what GAME chip you need to use. For instance a Double Diamond themed Machine is Type 0 with no special features. Any game chip that supports type 0 will do. Double Diamond Delux which has nudge features (arrow on the diamond pointing up or down) causes the reel to nudge up or down and potentially generate a win. Just adds a bit of excitement to the game. Is a TYPE 2 game.


Anyways the game chip is governed by a PSR sheet. Program Summary Report. This tells you how to program all of the features such as hopper limits, credit limits, pays go to credits or to cash, reel speed, reel sound, jackpot bell, progressive display, etc, etc.


Again deferring you back to RICKs faqs there is detailed instructions to get your machine to display your game and reel chip numbers. You need to know this.

In the file downloads there should be a file called Rons simplified programming sheet that will walk you through changing all of the options using the white set up button and various buttons on the front of the machine. The instructions differ depending on what game chip you have.


Btw now that your game works you can get other themes for your machine. You change the two aforementioned chips. Reel strips and glass and you get a whole different experience.
If your machine is a two coin today - it can easily become a 5 coin 5 line tomorrow.
We refer to these as game kits.


Let us know what chips are in your machine and keep us posted as to how you make out.



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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2018, 11:56:33 AM »
I have been working (kinda) with Dan on this machine.  First I have to say you guys are GREAT!!  I saw the section on the programming, if Dan don't figure it out next time I'm there I'll give it a shot!


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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2018, 09:54:55 PM »
The lower light on the candle flashes fast, the winner paid flashes a 4 and the credits a 1 at the same time, and the coins played flashes a 2 alternatively.  Won't take coins.  tripped the reset, heard a click, then right back to this.

Depending on your SP chip, the lower candle light will flash rapidly if the machine is detecting a door open.  On older SP chips, the candle will continue to flash rapidly after the door has been closed until a paid game has been completed.  On your SP810 chip, it appears that a rapidly flashing bottom candle light is indicating that the machine is detecting that a door is currently open, which could include the bill validator stacker ("cash can") door, belly door if equipped with a switch (rare), or the main door.  If the main door is not fully latched, the machine will think it is open.  If your optics are bad, the machine will think the door is open.

Depending on your SP chip, a flashing number in the Coins Played window can indicate a "Service (Door-Just-Closed) Notification".  The Coins Played digit flashes from the time the door is closed until the end of one complete game.  The PSR for your SP810 does not specify that it has this feature, so I can't say with certainty that the game is detecting the door as closed based on that.

Are you saying that the Winner Paid display is flashing the number 4 while the Credits meter is flashing the number 1?  That would be unusual.  A 4 in the Winner Paid display would make sense if the machine is currently showing a winning condition of a single cherry on the first reel with 2 coins played.  It does not make sense that you would only have one credit with a payout of 4 on the previous spin.
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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2018, 08:57:10 AM »
Not sure what was going on, but seems somewhat OK now.  Bill transporter is jamming.  So just started looking in that group for help on that.  I did something with the test button though, and now it won't accept coins.  But will accept crisp paper money.


I'm sure that I'm looking right at it, but where do I find Ron's programming write up?

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2018, 08:59:13 AM »
.....I'm sure that I'm looking right at it, but where do I find Ron's programming write up?

Is this it?

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=586.msg2029#msg2029
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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2018, 10:48:32 AM »
Yes, Thank you.
But I'm a little confused.  When I go to do the self tests, I get the 0 in the coins played window, but then I only get 2 numbers in the winner paid window.  Nothing in the credits window.  turning the reset key takes me from 0-9 then back to 0.  Hitting the spin reel button only switches between which of the 2 digits is flashing. 

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2018, 12:01:39 PM »
Sprayed some belt dressing on the transporter belts.  Works great for now. 
Just need to figure out how I disabled the comparitor and hopefully I'll be done.  Until the next one arrives next week. lol

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2018, 12:03:05 PM »
Someone real familiar with the S+ Test/Setup menus can probably walk you thru it. Do you know what SP chip you have on your machine's mpu board? The SP chip determines the specific features your machine's Test/Setup menus have, although many of the menu steps are in all SP chips. I will try to look back thru this discussion thread to see if you figured out what SP chip you have, but this thread is several pages long so if you know the SP chip number that will save time.

In general, I think you press the white TEST button over and over until you get to the menu step you want, then you use other buttons or the reset key to select sub-menus or make changes.

If you don't know your SP chip number here is an easy to follow way to have the machine tell you the SP and SS chip numbers:
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=2251.msg11326#msg11326
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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2018, 12:12:50 PM »
Sp 810.


I did at one point get into some of these tests and obviously did somethg.  May be better to just start a new thread.


Also changes something else.  Just found out that a single cherry used to pay as per what the glass says. Now it doesn't. 

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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2018, 12:34:51 PM »
If your original question back in your first post has been taken care of it then it might be good to end this one and start a new one for other questions. The document for SP810 is attached below. Sometimes they are a little hard to follow so ask if you have trouble.
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Re: S-plus doesn't operate
« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2018, 12:54:30 PM »
Awesome.  Thanks.  I'll end this post. 

 

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