Author Topic: Help on E2212 (Read 2785 times)

rjpohl · « **on:** January 22, 2021, 11:14:03 AM »

E2212
Need help figuring out the code on door, see pic 1

the rod (piece) in the right circle on pic 2 keeps getting hung up out of position.

powers up with coin diverter engages, does not register a credit when coin switch is tripped. Hopper runs continuously.

any suggestions where to start?

thanks
Bob

rjpohl · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2021, 06:49:29 AM »

Bump - need some help getting started on repair.
Is the battery needed on CPU?

Thanks
Bob

Paul · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2021, 08:40:12 AM »

No the battery is only used for retaining the stats.
You can replace it with a NI-CAD cordless phone battery or leave it off.

slcjeeper · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2021, 10:26:27 AM »

Quote from: rjpohl on January 23, 2021, 06:49:29 AM

Bump - need some help getting started on repair.
Is the battery needed on CPU?

Thanks
Bob

Bob, for the Bally E series machines, a battery is very much needed. That the battery can be left off is incorrect. A lithium-ion or NiCd is what you need. If you want to change to a non-rechargeable type battery, the charging circuit on the mpu board needs to be altered.

Paul · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2021, 11:06:16 AM »

Quote from: Amechanic on May 03, 2016, 10:37:13 PM

The battery on the MPU is not needed to make these Bally E1000 or E2000 machines to operate. They were used to retain the book keeping memory only and they will run without a battery. These machine how ever are meant to use the Ni-Cad rechargeable battery's. if you install a lithium battery you need to replace the resistor R1 with a diode as to not allow the battery to be charged.

slcjeeper · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2021, 11:50:45 AM »

Without a battery you are likely to get an error from the low voltage detect. So roll the dice.

slcjeeper · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2021, 12:06:12 PM »

Quote from: Paul on January 23, 2021, 11:06:16 AM

Quote from: Amechanic on May 03, 2016, 10:37:13 PM
The battery on the MPU is not needed to make these Bally E1000 or E2000 machines to operate. They were used to retain the book keeping memory only and they will run without a battery. These machine how ever are meant to use the Ni-Cad rechargeable battery's. if you install a lithium battery you need to replace the resistor R1 with a diode as to not allow the battery to be charged.

GOS · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2021, 02:55:48 PM »

bob - seems this thread has turned into a debate on the battery - addressing the issue you have here - did this machine work? the error looks to be issue with the P2 eprom or with the credit control board in the feature area of the machine. By the way my 2 cents - battery is NOT needed - there is no low voltage detect.

rjpohl · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2021, 03:01:32 PM »

No, this guy just bought several machines together. The others were S+. I was planning to pull the board and then re-seating all the EPROMs. I was also going to check battery voltage and replace if needed.
Thanks to everyone for there help,
Bob

GOS · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2021, 03:19:09 PM »

the display indicates issue with the P2 - either wrong or missing (USUALLY)

rjpohl · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2021, 10:21:10 AM »

I tested battery and it reads 4.196 vdc. I pulled all the eproms off the main board (beside reels) and reseated them. I pulled the board to do this and that's when I found that 1 pin was missing from the ribbon connector on the bottom right of board. the ribbon cable runs from the main board to the board on back wall and then up to board in top box. The pin missing is the top left as you look at the board.
thanks
Bob

rjpohl · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2021, 02:35:31 PM »

Here's pic of cpu board. the ribbon cable with the missing pin in the one on bottom right of board. Cable runs to board and back wall and then up to board in top box. I guess I need rind a replacement ribbon cable. Let me know if you have one.
The solenoid that pulls in to release handle is staying engaged (can pull handle as many times as you want). The coin diverter below coin comparator is engaged, takes coins but does not register them. Hopper continues to run.
Also the top 2 fuses on right (see picture) have blown twice.
thanks
Bob

rjpohl · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2021, 02:37:11 PM »

few more pics

rjpohl · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2021, 02:41:30 PM »

Quote from: GOS on January 23, 2021, 03:19:09 PM

the display indicates issue with the P2 - either wrong or missing (USUALLY)

i have a chip reader/burner, How do I know if the P2 is good/bad/wrong?

rjpohl · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2021, 02:44:14 PM »

also on the fuses in picture above, the sticker has fuse size listed but how do I know if the top numbers apply to the top left or top right fuse??

GOS · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2021, 03:14:23 PM »

the ribbon cable going from io to top box - fix that first that is most likely the problem - the fuse box top number to left next number down to right etc.

Badbaud · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2021, 03:30:03 PM »

Quote from: rjpohl on January 24, 2021, 02:35:31 PM

Here's pic of cpu board. the ribbon cable with the missing pin in the one on bottom right of board. Cable runs to board and back wall and then up to board in top box. I guess I need rind a replacement ribbon cable. Let me know if you have one.
The solenoid that pulls in to release handle is staying engaged (can pull handle as many times as you want). The coin diverter below coin comparator is engaged, takes coins but does not register them. Hopper continues to run.
Also the top 2 fuses on right (see picture) have blown twice.
thanks
Bob

KLAR sells those ribbon cables.

rjpohl · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2021, 12:29:01 PM »

Status Update:
I found a ribbon cable and with it and reseating the chips beside the battery I was able to get the display to act normal.
I tested coin switch (test 3) and it appears to be ok
The hopper runs continuously. When I run test 4 I get error 31 as soon as the hopper coin switch is activated. I will use jumpers and test switch, maybe bad switch.
The fuse on the top right blows as soon as I turn power on (I believe this is the light circuit. Yes/No?
Coin diverter on door is pulled in but still does not register coins.

any suggestions?

thanks
Bob

rjpohl · « **Reply #18 on:** January 27, 2021, 05:28:14 AM »

Help Still Needed!

I'm going to try to work on this a bit more today and any suggestions are greatly needed and appreciated.

Would the "light" fuse blowing cause coins not to register??
Do I need to find the cause of the light fuse blowing before moving on??
Is there a "clear" procedure for the E2000 slots??
Switch by door lock seems to be a bit touchy, can I just by pass it??

I've got a old hopper board that I was going to install just to see if it would stop hopper from running continuously.

Thanks and hope you guys can help me.
Bob

Badbaud · « **Reply #19 on:** January 27, 2021, 06:24:42 AM »

Yes!, bypass the door lock switch.

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