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coin comparitor BB1
« on: August 01, 2016, 09:18:56 PM »
Hi, I am trying to install a coin system on a BB1, and have everything working except I cannot seem to get the comparitor to work. I have reset (cleared) and set up game from scratch. When I try to enable the coin comparitor, the light turns green, but as soon as I exit, machine disables it (light turns orange). There is no save or set on the bottom of the screen.   :duh: New to the Williams machines!
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2016, 09:41:08 PM »
What kind of comparitor?

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 09:49:42 PM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 01, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
What kind of comparitor?

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Micro Comparitor MC-40
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 09:59:30 PM »
I'm using an MC40 in mine, but if memory serves, it seems like coin comparitors are designed for specific OEM devices.  In other words, I think MC40s are available for Konami, WMS, etc.  I wonder if yours is WMS specific.

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 09:30:56 AM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 01, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
I'm using an MC40 in mine, but if memory serves, it seems like coin comparitors are designed for specific OEM devices.  In other words, I think MC40s are available for Konami, WMS, etc.  I wonder if yours is WMS specific.

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How would I tell if it is for WMS or not?
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 12:19:50 PM »
The light is only green when the comparitor is ready.  It turns orange when the door is opened and you are not in test mode.  Can you feed it coins in test mode?  It should go through a register as a coin accepted in the diagnostic screen?  Post a picture of your comparitor with the cmi number, someone could probably cross reference with theirs to make sure you have the right one.
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 12:39:13 PM »
Here's mine for comparison.

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 01:29:00 PM »
I will take a picture tonight and post. It doesn't allow me to "set" or "save" on the screen that says disabled. Once enabled, on that same screen I can see the light turn green. However you can't set or save, so when you exit, it reverts to disabled.  :banghead:
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 01:44:32 PM »
Which game/OS are you loading up?

Rick, if the hardware is correct, could an older version of an operating system cause this or do you suspect hardware?

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 01:52:20 PM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 02, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
Which game/OS are you loading up?

Rick, if the hardware is correct, could an older version of an operating system cause this or do you suspect hardware?

Jason
I think it's Monopoly Grand Hotel. I haven't tried other games yet.
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 07:41:05 PM »
That's interesting, I have an MC-62 in mine.
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM »
Quote from: Jimise on August 02, 2016, 07:41:05 PM
That's interesting, I have an MC-62 in mine.

Jim, I tried a 62 in mine when it was a BB1 and I never saw that model in the list of supported coin comparitors during setup.  Never could get it to work.  When I did the BB2 conversion and used updated operating systems, it was available in the list and works fine.  I can switch between a 62 and a 40 on my BB2 rig without any problems.

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 07:55:15 PM »
Ok, here is the picture of mine.
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2016, 08:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 02, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
Which game/OS are you loading up?

Rick, if the hardware is correct, could an older version of an operating system cause this or do you suspect hardware?

Jason

The only place where I've seen enable/disable coin comparitor is in the diagnostic screen.  The setup screen just makes you choose between comparitor types.  Once you set the comparitor type, you can go test it in the diagnostic screen.  Maybe the OP can post a screenshot of where he is doing the enable/disable button?
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2016, 09:00:52 PM »
Here's the thread I fired up a while back around this topic:

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=6793.0

Doesn't look like your cmi number is legit for WMS.

The spec sheet is attached.

Thanks,
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2016, 09:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 02, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
Here's the thread I fired up a while back around this topic:

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=6793.0

Doesn't look like your cmi number is legit for WMS.

The spec sheet is attached.

Thanks,
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So if I am understanding this correctly, those are the only numbers that would work on my machine? Hoping maybe there was a second page of WMS machines!
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2016, 09:59:33 PM »
That's the only information that I have.  Maybe idesign or some of the other guys know if there's an updated sheet.

If not, yeah, it might be time to get a comparitor that matches what's on the sheet.

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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 10:16:39 AM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on August 02, 2016, 09:59:33 PM
That's the only information that I have.  Maybe idesign or some of the other guys know if there's an updated sheet.

If not, yeah, it might be time to get a comparitor that matches what's on the sheet.

Thanks,
Jason
Ok, any thoughts on who might have one for sale and what one is worth? Oh, and by the way, thanks for all the effort and help with this.
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
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Re: coin comparitor BB1
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 03:07:55 PM »
Quote from: rickhunter on August 03, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
Here you go.

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/mc40-coin-mech-coin-comparit40.html
Ok, looks good, but in my reference sheet, the last numbers (200 in this case) would indicate .05 denomination. I think yours in your picture was a 202 for 1.00 denomination. 201 is for quarters which is what I am looking for, does this matter?
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