Author Topic: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090 (Read 88559 times)

David Walz · « **Reply #140 on:** May 11, 2018, 11:22:45 PM »

OK, on with the next issue.

I found a Bally call light, winner light with the exact wiring as the slot machine.

On the winner light, reading the wiring diagram it fees off the bell, that was easy no more work needed to be done on that wire.

On the call light I need to rewire the call switch, it was disabled, no wiring, thats going to be some work to establish a connection. What I dont know is how it stays on when the call light is pressed?

? The light blinks, I know that for sure.

Amechanic · « **Reply #141 on:** May 11, 2018, 11:52:17 PM »

That service candle light you have there is for the earlier EM that didn't have the door hinge switch, like the 700 and 800 series slots. They were just a single bulb candle. Your game should have the dual bulb lights. White light signals the doors open and worked off the lower hinge switch. The colored lens was the service button found on the front door bezel. The dual lights are a diamond shape. Where yours the early style are square. See my pic. The different color lens was for different denomination of machines. Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, but I donâ€™t remember what color was for what denom.. It was easier to look for a light color then walking around say for a nickel or 50c machine. Just look at the lights.

David Walz · « **Reply #142 on:** May 12, 2018, 07:04:27 AM »

Quote from: Amechanic on May 11, 2018, 11:52:17 PM

That service candle light you have there is for the earlier EM that didn't have the door hinge switch, like the 700 and 800 series slots. They were just a single bulb candle. Your game should have the dual bulb lights. White light signals the doors open and worked off the lower hinge switch. The colored lens was the service button found on the front door bezel. The dual lights are a diamond shape. Where yours the early style are square. See my pic. The different color lens was for different denomination of machines. Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, but I donâ€™t remember what color was for what denom.. It was easier to look for a light color then walking around say for a nickel or 50c machine. Just look at the lights.

Damn, now I need to locate another type of candle.

Thanks, really, its great information and I appreciate it, I'm still learning about these things.

These are really hard to find, I'll keep looking. If I was able to find a rare, heavy duty, $1.00 coin, hopper cover, I can find this light

David Walz · « **Reply #143 on:** May 13, 2018, 10:33:55 AM »

I was checking out the call switch, it was stuck. The switch has grease that is like a rock. Ive tried to clean it without much luck. I'm going to try and locate one online through a electronics place. It has six leads coming out of the switch, it actually is a on off switch from the Bally factory.

So I figured out how the light stays on this machine, this tower light has two bulbs, the call light flashes.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #144 on:** May 13, 2018, 10:15:46 PM »

Have you tried spraying the dried grease with something like PB Blaster and let it work for a while? It is pretty good at loosening crud.

David Walz · « **Reply #145 on:** May 13, 2018, 11:18:26 PM »

Quote from: rokgpsman on May 13, 2018, 10:15:46 PM

Have you tried spraying the dried grease with something like PB Blaster and let it work for a while? It is pretty good at loosening crud.

I found another Bally slot machine switch.

Thanks for the advice, I really, really, tried to clean it, its obvious that switch stopped being used a long time ago. I'm thinking that this machine has not been operational for awhile. The tower light works for service and jackpot, which I had to research the wiring diagram to locate the missing wires. Everything is going smoothly regarding restoring things, like the meters, missing wires, restoring things that have been cut out a long time ago.

I don't know what I would have done without a wiring schematic, that saved a lot of my work searching for wire locations, making the restoration easier on this slot machine.

David Walz · « **Reply #146 on:** May 14, 2018, 03:57:22 PM »

PARTS CAME IN!

Hopper cover
Hopper chingaderas
Motor for hopper
Switch parts for the upper cabinet

Life is very good, sometimes you need to cattle prod people in a nice way to get them to move. It took 2 months but I got my hopper cover, at least they were not "unprofessional", just slow as snail s**t.

David Walz · « **Reply #147 on:** May 14, 2018, 07:13:46 PM »

In my opinion, I don't think it's about what the slot machine can do "without", its about this vintage slot machine being period correct for 1970's. Everything need to be in place, everything needs to be void of butchered wires, screws, holes that need to be filled, the cabinet needs to be repaired, some of the glass needs to be replaced with glass cfree from damage.

A slot machine, just like any other machine needs everything, if you had a classic Ford missing the air cleaner, spare tire, shift knob, sure it will run fine, but it's much nicer having all of the parts making it more valuable than one that's missing parts.

I'm way to much ocd, I need some professional help .

After I installed the hopper motor, the motor runs a whole lot faster than the old one, in fact it shoots quarters across the room.

David Walz · « **Reply #148 on:** May 15, 2018, 11:48:36 AM »

I've found a backup transformer, it was not all that expensive, less than $50.00. I'm stocking up on parts for the future. Makes life easier being so far away from a parts supplier in the lower 48.

David Walz · « **Reply #149 on:** May 15, 2018, 04:44:54 PM »

Upper cabinet part of the progressive coin series, I'm working on the three coils and the assembly. The plastic is crumbling on the coils and the switch actuator.

What numbers I'm working with are two G-31-2000 and one G-33-2300. All three are crumbling.

So now I'm working on getting things replaced, and it's coming along. Right now, I have the armature and switches completed, on to the coils and thet don't look good.

David Walz · « **Reply #150 on:** May 15, 2018, 07:43:02 PM »

More photos, the relay number on the broken one, G-33-2800 is different than the other two G-31-2000, I will have to verify it's correct since this machine has had been FUBAR before I purchased it, and I'm not taking any chances on getting it wrong.

Talk about brittle, wow it just crumbles, (the plastic). This machine had seen some long term service.

Just found a photo on the forum from another member with a 1090 so I hope it's ok to post it. The coil is a G-33-2800, so I ordered one. Nice to know coils are plentiful and not obsolete.

David Walz · « **Reply #151 on:** May 15, 2018, 11:22:59 PM »

I think its quite ironic, some of you are ripping out some parts that you consider "obsolete", and I'm re-installing the same parts back into the slot machine, wiring them up per factory.

David Walz · « **Reply #152 on:** May 16, 2018, 09:51:23 AM »

Well, I think I've worn out my welcome here, I really really understand that I've asked so many different questions that I am having to quit asking, and just post my progress. The help you provided has been a great help in restoring the slot machine, I guess a lot of you didn't know just how far I was going on this restoration, which is all of the way.

Every member here that has posted on my questions, inquiry, etc. have been very helpful getting over the slot machine blockades I've encountered. That's really great having people who are knowable.

One goal was to get it overhauled, cleaned, serviced.
Another goal is to work on parts that were needing a good overhaul.
Another goal is to locate ALL of the factory slot machine parts and get them working correctly.
Another goal is to replace parts that are damaged from age like the plastic relay parts, switches for the call to service, stuff like that.

Finally achieving the ultimate goal, having a fully functional, fully operational, slot machine that is correct as much as possible.

Some people may think I'm just throwing time and money away trying to achieve my goal and I should just be happy I've got a slot machine that works, however it's not in my overall plans, I'm not modifying this slot machine, I'm restoring back to the factory when it was made in 1979.

David Walz · « **Reply #153 on:** May 16, 2018, 10:06:54 AM »

Working on the door switch, something is not correct, I believe that a piece of metal is bent on to the switch button preventing the switch from working correctly. I will need to investigate this further.