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My First Alpha
« on: April 14, 2014, 11:28:01 AM »
Here's the first of the machines I picked up from gameking this last weekend. Needs the ticket printer, so if you got some to sell, I'm here to buy.  Cool game, it pays any three 7's scattered within 1 position of payline.  I had never seen this game in the casinos.  The Jurisdictional chip is from Michigan, does it allow for stand-alone ticket printing?
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 11:41:18 AM »
Looks nice. I have that game listed on our website using the internal progressive. You will need a RS232 Gen2 or Iticha printer and it will have to be programmed for the Bally machine. CA and FL should be okay for a jurisdictional chip using a printer.
 
What other games did you get?
 
 
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 11:59:14 AM »
The other one I got was B&W 7's.  It's a 3 reel 25 line/125 max bet game.  I have an Ithaca 850, how do I program it to bally?  Is it just a harness to a PC or do I need a special tool of sorts?  Or if you have some, I'll just buy a pair from you.  The third machine I traded for an S2000, it was also a B&W 7's.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2014, 02:59:44 PM »
In standalone mode, MI Jurisdiction chip will not work for you on the printer.  The only one that I know that does is CA Tribal.  A get around on that would be to use a TITO device which will allow the printer to work with any jurisdiction chip in there or of course you could change the jurisdiction chip out.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2014, 04:28:19 PM »
The other one I got was B&W 7's. It's a 3 reel 25 line/125 max bet game. I have an Ithaca 850, how do I program it to bally? Is it just a harness to a PC or do I need a special tool of sorts? Or if you have some, I'll just buy a pair from you. The third machine I traded for an S2000, it was also a B&W 7's.
 
I can only do GEN2 printers.
 
Have you tried turning on the printer? Maybe the 850 is already programmed?
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2014, 04:55:01 PM »
Quote from: Ohio Gaming on April 14, 2014, 04:28:19 PM
The other one I got was B&W 7's. It's a 3 reel 25 line/125 max bet game. I have an Ithaca 850, how do I program it to bally? Is it just a harness to a PC or do I need a special tool of sorts? Or if you have some, I'll just buy a pair from you. The third machine I traded for an S2000, it was also a B&W 7's.
 
I can only do GEN2 printers.
 
Have you tried turning on the printer? Maybe the 850 is already programmed?


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That just jogged my memory.  I remember now getting in some a couple years ago that had 850's in them and I never could get them to work.  Actually they were missing the harness from the printer comm board to the standard plug that runs to the back plane.  Looked like the casino just shoved them in there to make them "parts complete".  Seems logical they should work but can't confirm any success on my end.  In that case I bit the bullet and bought Gen 2's and put them in.  I can get the Gen 2's and Ithaca 950's to work.



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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2014, 05:35:16 PM »
The first machines that I purchased came in with GEN1s printers .. was not an option in the Alpha program menu .. at least what I tried didn't worked. All the harnesses was there for the GEN1 connection. I also think the casinos kept the RS232 printers and reached into the magic drum of slot parts and filled the void. I haven't found any RS232 printers that are reasonably priced yet and I would have to make sure I could get the correct harnesses.
 
I was in Miami a month ago and played around with the Alpha for a couple of days. The only printer I worked with was the GEN2 RS232. I was able to program it for the Alpha with CA jursidication and GEN2 GRU561C35 software. I sat there and printed 100 tickets so I figure that was successful. FL didn't work with C35 software. I haven't seen any Ithaca printers in the machines that I have but I remember seeing Ithaca in the menu. So the 850 may not be an option like the GEN1. Could be the 950 in the menu. I will have to admit that I did not try to find out if the GEN1 has software available since it wasn't listed in the program menu.
 
 
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2014, 06:04:37 PM »
Quote from: Ohio Gaming on April 14, 2014, 04:28:19 PM

 
I can only do GEN2 printers.
 
Have you tried turning on the printer? Maybe the 850 is already programmed?

The printer didn't come with it, I had it laying around and I believe it was at one point working with a BB2 machine.  I was planning on using a TITO board on it anyway, so I guess the jurisdictional chip wouldn't matter. 
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2014, 06:25:59 PM »
All my alpha's have gen 2 rs-232's in them-not to say 950's may work,  Have not tried.  I am not big on printers anyway.  I do have piles of printers-lot's of gen 2's mostly igt and some bally williams.  Will try and test some as time allows.  Protocol on bally and wms was rs-232 all the way I thought on bv's and printers- :Scratch-Head: .  I do also have some strange devices that convert signals to rs-232 -some made by bally (at least their logo is on them etc.) .  Rick- Also make sure you have all the proper clear cards on hand depending on the OS platform you will be using(You prob. already know!).  The hottest one I have seen for most app's is the 336-os series and a 335 clear.  Of course other cobinations. 
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 06:32:06 PM »
Here is what it looks like with the progressive programmed.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 06:38:49 PM »
Nice indeed, BUT Look at all that nice glass u got piled up there!--- :arrowthruhead: :Tongue_Out: .
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 06:54:52 PM »
The progressive looks cool.  I'm going to have to do that to mine.  I assume I have to clear it to setup progressive?
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 07:11:10 PM »
heres a dumb question but how come some alphas have that square led box below the denom that shows what you won? :Scratch-Head:
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 07:46:33 PM »
Those are the older Alphas that did not have a top LCD.  Ever since the TOP LCD alpha have been around that little LCD screen below the denom was removed.  Now all the messages and winning information is displayed on the top LCD and the "old fashioned" LED displays.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 07:48:01 PM »
Quote from: BettorSlots on April 14, 2014, 02:59:44 PM
In standalone mode, MI Jurisdiction chip will not work for you on the printer.  The only one that I know that does is CA Tribal.  A get around on that would be to use a TITO device which will allow the printer to work with any jurisdiction chip in there or of course you could change the jurisdiction chip out.


Congrats on the new ALPHA... Looks legit with the progressive on there!


I have a NEW JERSEY Jurisdiction chip in my M9000 and works great with the Bettor TITO. My other machine (S9E) is from an Arizona Tribal and have not tried it on that machine as I don't have a printer for that one.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2014, 08:22:15 PM »
qreat looking machine!  congrats!
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 09:10:40 PM »
Looks like we may have some printer demands for these here?.  If so I will take the time to look and get some out,test and put a price tag on them.  Just printers, no housing brackets for alpha etc.  Let me know.  --These will be gen 2 rs-232 or "other" when I do this. 
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 12:12:27 AM »
Quote from: 777sizzler on April 14, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Looks like we may have some printer demands for these here?.  If so I will take the time to look and get some out,test and put a price tag on them.  Just printers, no housing brackets for alpha etc.  Let me know.  --These will be gen 2 rs-232 or "other" when I do this.


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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 02:26:49 AM »
Quote from: rickhunter on April 14, 2014, 06:54:52 PM
The progressive looks cool.  I'm going to have to do that to mine.  I assume I have to clear it to setup progressive?

Yes .. but you can't program multi-denom and internal progressive at the same time. It is one or the other.
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Re: My First Alpha
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 08:52:42 AM »
AHHH, that would explain why I wasn't able to change the progressive type in the configuration menu, it didn't respond.  I had dual denomination setup.  Will have to try that later today.  Thanks for the tip. 
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