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Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« on: March 29, 2018, 09:38:35 AM »
Just purchased some double cherry tokens for my 1996 IGT Double Cherry Bar machine. (Man Cave) The site claimed compatibility but they are jambing at the "elevator" ? Is there a different part I can use? The current elevator doesn't look like it can be modified. Thank you in advance.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2018, 10:15:47 AM »
Have you tried real quarters, just to make sure there isn't something wrong with the coin elevator and other coin path parts in the machine? If the jamming occurs with real quarters then the problem isn't your tokens.

Also, you can inspect the tokens, make sure they are the same thickness and diameter as a real quarter.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 10:21:18 AM »
Yes, quarters work just fine. The tokens are .984 where quarters are .955 I think so the tokens are slightly larger. The site claimed they work but jam in my machine.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2018, 10:31:04 AM »
Those double cherry tokens work great on IGT stand up machines.  I have 3000 of them. Never tried them on a machine with an elevator.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »
Do the tokens feel heavier than quarters?  Is the jamming happening at a point where the tokens begin to move upward? Is there a mounting adjustment to the coin elevator that could improve how it works with the tokens?
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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2018, 10:39:00 AM »
It takes about 80 quarters to weigh a pound.
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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2018, 10:47:32 AM »
They are magnetic and are lighter than a quarter.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2018, 10:54:16 AM »
The .984 are Japanese - I have about 10k of these in use with my stand up machines.
Since I have different series I have to dial down the comparator sensitivity but they work well.

They are however known to cause issues with Slant top machines with Elevators.

Fannini's used to have some brass tokens that were the exact same size as a quarter. They were slightly more expensive.

My understanding that the dollar sized tokens are pretty much identical to dollar coins but you would need to change hopper parts, coin in parts and Elevator. Again dollar tokens are more expensive than quarter sized tokens

Another option is to disable coin out.  Some people simply change hand pay to 1 coin, and remove the wire from the cashout button.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2018, 12:05:54 PM »
IGT did make an elevator for .98x size tokens, they had to because when the casinos opened in Indiana they all used tokens, and because they couldn't be the same size as American currency they made them oversized. American quarter is .950
I'll check and see if I have any laying around, did have a bunch at one time, you have to replace the entire elevator, three or four screws around the base, the only difference is the coin channel is about 1/16 inch wider.

The company that sold them to you probably didn't know you were using them in a slant top, they work great in all side eject hoppers.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2018, 01:29:36 PM »
Interesting  :nerd: I just learned something new. I would not have thought that the elevator would not accept tokens due to the fact that they are only 0.30 larger then a quarter. Is this the same on a Bally slant top hopper as it is with this IGT?  I bought about 3000 of those quarter size token from Fannini’s slots years back. I wish I had bought more now since you can find them any more.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2018, 04:12:58 PM »
We have the complete Slant Top .984 Hopper for S+ or we can sell just the Escalator and Guide plates if you prefer. This is if the other Jim doesn't have for you

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2018, 04:41:06 PM »
The right size elevator/escalator would be great or the right size tokens. I see a couple of folks here that may have parts. Price? Also new to this. Took me two weeks to figure out how to post =). Not sure how to make contact with the people and spare parts. Thank you in advance.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2018, 06:21:48 PM »
Click on the blue bar at the top that says NLG home page. Scroll down in the middle. The names of the vendors will be there. Contact them.

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2018, 06:48:25 PM »
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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 07:51:42 PM »
..... Also new to this. Took me two weeks to figure out how to post =). Not sure how to make contact with the people and spare parts......

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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
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Re: Double Cherry Tokens jam the elevator.
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This chart helped me.  :yes:
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