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Help identify dice rolling machine
« on: September 12, 2021, 10:40:45 AM »
I had no idea which category to put this in. This isn't a video or reel game, it is an electromechanical machine. When I first saw the listing I assumed the dice had lights in them and the odds were controlled by a computer but that is not the case. There are actual dice in a shaker box (for lack of a better term) and when its time to roll the dice the box has an arm that flips the dice. It appears to me that the dice have magnets or something behind each of the pips and a board underneath counts them. This seems very late-70s in some respects. There are no maker marks on the case or on the board. The game brain board seems to work but the shaker box is dead so it tilts. I suspect PS. The brain board had a section of bad corrosion even though there is no backup battery.
The face glass is plexiglass. The shaker box is a mechanical marvel, it actually moves the dice back to the front of the box after each payout.
Im hoping someone has see one and can help identify.
Chris
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2021, 09:20:23 PM »
That appears to be a Bonanza Million Dice. I have 2 of the later Super Dice versions. There were a few different models of it and there is no support available for it. Bonanza was a Japanese company and there are a few members here who have them. Hopefully they'll chime in. Meanwhile you can read more about them here https://www.coinopcollectorforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4710&hilit=bonanza+Craps and here's a video https://youtu.be/oyYfMWKFV-U
« Last Edit: February 26, 2025, 09:56:41 AM by shortrackskater »
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2021, 09:36:30 PM »
Thank you very much. When I saw the Japanese text on the PS I wondered if the PS was just sourced from Japan  or if the entire game was maybe Japanese. I cleaned up the corrosion on the board and got the game to accept a bet but as soon as the dice mechanism is supposed to run it tilts. Do you know if the dice box is supposed to have power all the time and that is controlled by the onboard relay?
Thanks again for the link.

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2021, 09:46:36 PM »
Unfortunately I can't be of any help in regards to the proper state of the machine during play. Now that you know what it is, hopefully you can track down someone with a working machine that can answer your questions. If you get it going, please share videos of it in action.
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine (AKA: Bonanza Million Dice)
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2025, 10:17:23 PM »
Finally after 4 years of troubleshooting, the game is up and working. I thought it was 3 when I was filming, wow how time flies. Especially when you are troubleshooting for 4 years! Lol
Thanks to everyone who guided me early on to resources related to the machine.

https://youtu.be/7p0kC3kQSfU?si=4xeIysSVpxGQHqib

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2025, 10:19:26 AM »
What an incredibly unique machine. Nice to see you got it up and running. :applause:
Thanks for making the video too!
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2025, 10:32:19 AM »
Wow Chris!
That is really some machine there!   :yes:
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2025, 02:16:37 PM »
Very cool.
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2025, 04:13:52 PM »
That is an awesome machine! I remember playing one of these many many years ago.
And thanks for the video too Chris...

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2025, 06:45:21 AM »
Very Nice!!! Congratulations on the successful repair!!

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2025, 10:45:00 AM »
Yah thanks! It feels good.
Im glad I get to play it with quarters that I retrieve. The odds are terrible and you can chew through $100 in a matter of minutes.

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2025, 03:56:02 PM »
Can you make another video for us sometime? Maybe you can get a "big pay" on video??  :arrowthruhead: You might have to try over and over though!  :rotfl:
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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2025, 08:25:18 PM »
Ok, I don’t know if this is what you asked for but here is an extended overview with multiple payouts, dice un-jamb, internal mechanisms and me rambling on. Grab a cocktail and watch till you doze or Skip to 4 minutes if you just want to see the dice roll.

I think we should all do overviews of machines we have that are less common and most of us haven’t seen in the wild. Who knows, in 10 or 20 years someone might get some good information that they need to get their game working. I imagine YouTube content will still be around long after us, wouldn’t it be cool if there was color footage and audio of someone working on a Model T when it was 10 or 20 years old?

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 08:02:53 AM »
Chris,

 That is a Cool Game :cool_thumb_up: ! Thanks for sharing.  I remember back in my GON days they had a Dice game (Proposition Dice, if I remember correctly).  It used a jig saw as the shaker motor and a cctv camera to read the dice.

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Re: Help identify dice rolling machine
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 09:05:54 AM »
A CCTV to read the dice? Wow, that was advanced for the time! Was it reliable?
Have you seen one since they were in Casinos?

 

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