S Plus Slant Top - No Codes, medium flashing bottom candle

[Dtabes]

Hi there all I have a slant top S+ machine that has no codes on the display, the bottom candle is flashing slow to medium and when trying to put a coin in it just keeps getting rejected. Have tried to adjust the comparitor but no luck

Thanks for the help

[cav511]

I also have a slant top. Its been a nightmare of a machine. I had the same issue. I removed the hooper and took it apart. I had taken it out prevously and thought coins were moving fine. This time a penny fell out that was jammed in it. Im not sure where it fell out of but I had removed the steel plates. The penny had been in there for a long time, it was very worn and smooth. Im not sure why it didnt give me a code. I also switched the coin comparer with one that I knew was working. I found that the one that was in the machine wasnt responding but was lighting up. Im not sure which one caused the issue because I did both things together.  Good luck

[Dtabes]

Hi there thanks for that good info... Do you know where you got the used or functioning coin comparator?

Doug

[shortrackskater]

Did your machine work before?
And, just to rule this out - does it take bills?

[Dtabes]

I do not know if it worked before was a machine my father in law owned.... Had a dead battery on board, replaced that.... Got the 64 code and did what we needed to and it cleared so that part seems well. It does not take bills but do see the red optic light in there

[sixcardmark]

If you cleared machine you need a set chip to enable the BV and set the denom.

[Dtabes]

Thank you. I do have a set of chips can you provide the procedure? The coins falling though and coming in the tray would be the cause of the bill changer not working or reset?

Doug

[jay]

On our home page - there is Ricks FAQs on the bottom right - Here is a quick link to using the set chip but there is a wealth of information to be found here.
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/dbv.htm

[shortrackskater]

And to add to Jay's reply, take some time and read the "LOOK HERE FIRST" in the S plus section. Lots of good information there for future issues.   

https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=28444.0

[Dtabes]

Ok here is the update on the problem I have been having. I still have no codes and the bottom candle is flashing. On the coin display it says 0 see pic, and when I put a coin in, it just drops out. I have replaced the coin comparator from another machine that I know works and the same issue just drops through and nothing registers. If I push the small white button on the comparator board it registers a coin and I can manually spin the machine. If I push it a couple times it will put up to 3 quarters in there and the reels spin. No coins will work at all though registering it but looks as if the insert coins is lit

That is where I am at the moment as I try to narrow this down

Doug

[Stayouttadabunker]

Your machine is almost ready to go.
It just needs better coin acceptance.
If you're using quarters, install a quarter in the coin comparitor.
On the comparitor itself, use a small Philips screwdriver, turn the sensitivity dial fully counter-clockwise until it stops, and then turn it a 1/4 turn clock-wise.
That will put the coin acceptance in the ballpark.
I can't remember offhand, but turning the dial fully one way or another, allows any coin to be accepted....try that if it doesn't work the 1st time.

There are tests you can try but this may help for now.

[Tilt]

When you say drops through do you mean rejected or the coin drops into the hopper?  If it's going into the hopper then you may have a large coin insert in the optics which would allow the coin to drop through without registering.  The small coin insert guides the coin through the optics before it reaches the hopper.  Post some pictures of the comparitor optics and someone will be able to tell you.

Do not use a clear chip on your machine at this point.  You'll just mess up a bunch of settings and create more problems.  Your machine is booting up correctly, so do yourself a favor and leave it alone.  You can use the SET chip if you want to for the bill validator, but don't use the clear.

[Dtabes]

A big shout out to everyone for all the help thus far on things. When I drop a coin in, it falls straight to the tray on the right. Nothing registers it just fall through. I have tried adjusting the comparator but that did not seem to help.

As mentioned, I took my comparator from another .25 machine and tried that but still does the same thing. I was trying process of elimination because the one I put on as a test works fine on another one of our machines.

Also, no error codes which is GREAT for me but the bottom candle is still blinking. The only time I can get the machine to work is by pressing that little white button which does act as a coin drop and registers.

If I tried another coin comparator that is to work not sure what else it could be

Doug

[Tilt]

If it's falling back into the coin tray then it's being rejected.  The candle lower candle will continue to flash until a game is played and then it will stop.  Are all the doors closed properly?  When you shut the top cover the display should go blank, then light up a few seconds later along with the insert coins light.  Does it do that? 

[Stayouttadabunker]

Can you show us a photo of the coin comparitor installed in it's clip holder? 
It sounds like you have something wrong there.

[Jim]

Shim the rake out of the body of the cc-16, then see if it accepts the coin or gives you a 21 code. If 21 code, then clip Q-2 or Q-4 off the coin optic board, this should correct your problem.


Jim

[knagl]

When you close the main hatch door, does the "0" in the LED coins played display go blank for a second or two and then come back? If not, your machine isn't sensing that the door is closed and it will not attempt to accept a coin.

[jonbbrew]

When you close the main hatch door, does the "0" in the LED coins played display go blank for a second or two and then come back? If not, your machine isn't sensing that the door is closed and it will not attempt to accept a coin.

X2

[Dtabes]

He is the pic of the coin comparator as requested

Doug

[jay]

You might want to check out this post by Dinoman, and subsequent comments by Mark (Stayoutofthebunker) about ensuring your CC-16D is the right voltage.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=18117.0