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Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« on: March 18, 2023, 06:17:27 PM »
I just picked up two machines, a Williams Dotmation and a 401. They both have bill validators in the same place, basically the same setup, just different bezels.

Two questions:
It looks like there is some sort of tool used to remove the stacker, but I have not seen one outside of the manual. Are they out there? Or is there an easy trick to remove the stacker without using a putty knife?

Also, why did they make it that the pull handle is in the way of the access door? I can shimmy the stacker out, but ideally you’d want to pull the handle down first. Is there a trick that others use?

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2023, 07:02:15 PM »
You can use two wide putty knives, push one on the left, the other on the right.

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2023, 08:46:00 PM »
You can tape a used gift card or credit card... to each side of the stacker. It will pull out easy, and it will stay in place ok. The handle shoukd move just enough to get the box out, not all the way but enough to get it out.
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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2023, 05:45:07 AM »
bet one credit and pull handle down enough to clear the cashbox, the handle will stay in the partial pulled position.  I wonder how they accessed the cash cans in the casino when the handle is in the way??

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2023, 06:22:54 AM »
  I wonder how they accessed the cash cans in the casino when the handle is in the way??

I agree, kinda a bad design choice, especially when machines are tight to each other, side by side.

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2023, 06:24:12 AM »
You can tape a used gift card or credit card... to each side of the stacker. It will pull out easy, and it will stay in place ok.

I’ll give that a go, sounds like a good solution.

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2023, 06:30:42 AM »
  I wonder how they accessed the cash cans in the casino when the handle is in the way??

I agree, kinda a bad design choice, especially when machines are tight to each other, side by side.
When the machine is on and the cash box door is unlocked,  it releases the handle so the tech could pull it out of the way. If someone has jumped the switch on yours, it won't function as designed. 

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2023, 01:50:48 PM »
  I wonder how they accessed the cash cans in the casino when the handle is in the way??

I agree, kinda a bad design choice, especially when machines are tight to each other, side by side.
When the machine is on and the cash box door is unlocked,  it releases the handle so the tech could pull it out of the way. If someone has jumped the switch on yours, it won't function as designed.

I guess I’ve never tried to pull the box with the power on, I’ll have to give it a try.

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Re: Questions about 400/401 bill validator/ stacker
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2023, 08:53:30 AM »

It looks like there is some sort of tool used to remove the stacker, but I have not seen one outside of the manual. Are they out there? Or is there an easy trick to remove the stacker without using a putty knife?


I used to have one but don't anymore.  They did make a remover that was sort of box shaped with an open side, and had a lock on it.  You'd slide it over the stacker, and the stacker would be locked in the remover.  Pull it out and it securely held the stacker, no access to the cash.  Someone with a key would be needed to unlock and remove the stacker.

 

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