Two used machines, 1995 triple diamonds, red white and blue- power but no worky

[rokgpsman]

Thanks Shaggy!  Looks like a common theme for the various IGT S and S+ machines is that the fuses are near the electrical service outlet and that there are 3 fuses. Just to make certain it is clear for the OP I noted the fuses on your photo.

[Shaggy]

Yes sir they seem to keep them close to the power. The later is nice as you don't have to remove the hopper.   

[elweedz]

All fuses check out on multimeter   


The first two pics are red white and blue
The next three are triple diamonds.


And i forgot to unplug machine before fuse check but did flick the little inner power button off.


Neither machine has the guts for the dollar bill changer.

[cowboygames]

We need more detail on what the machines are doing when you turn them on. What lights come on? What, if anything do the reels do? Do they stiffen or stay easy to turn by hand? What is showing in the credit display windows? Do they make any noise? With the info we have so far it's like expecting a accurate diagnosis from the doctor after telling him over the phone you don't feel good

[therockinelvis]

Rob, I was glad to see the inner door picture, but also want to see what is lit on the front.

[elweedz]

Lets start with Triple diamonds.


When i power up the wheels spin and stop on their own.  The pics show the lights.  Note the bottom yellow siren blinks non stop in rapid fashion (much faster than car blinker), the white siren is solid.   When i open door, i can spin the wheels and they make a click feel to them in either direction.   Within a second or two of me doing so, they spin again.  If i leave them alone, they stay where they are.  I cannot pull the handle.  Let me know if more is needed.




Flipped the pictures upright.  -knagl

[elweedz]

Now Red white and blue.


Power up and lights come on but wheels dont spin.  I mispoke earlier.  This one does have dollar bill changer guts and the guts make noise like they searching for a dollar.  This noise persists several times before it stops.  The wheels dont spin on there own.  They do move freely with less clicky feel than the Trip diamonds.  They dont do anything after i spin them though.

[knagl]

Well, let's start with the easy one.  On your Red White and Blue machine, the very likely culprit is the power connector cable and its molex connector that goes between the power supply and the motherboard on the inside of the machine, behind the hopper.  Please read the following post (and the links in the replies to the post) to solve your issue with the Red White and Blue machine:

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=14163.0

[knagl]

Triple diamonds.

When i power up the wheels spin and stop on their own.  The pics show the lights.  Note the bottom yellow siren blinks non stop in rapid fashion (much faster than car blinker), the white siren is solid.

The reels spinning on their own and then coming to a stop after a power-up is normal.  It's referred to as the "maiden spin" around here -- it's the machine testing everything and then setting the reels to the last play result.

The white light at the top of the candle (the light tower on the top of the machine) is the "Change/Service" light.  If you press the far left button on the player panel which is labeled "Service" (or sometimes "Change"), it will toggle that lamp on and off.  Its purpose is to signal to a casino employee that the customer sitting at that machine needs assistance.

The yellow light on the bottom of the candle when rapidly flashing is indicating that the machine has just been turned on, and/or that the door has been opened.  It will stop blinking rapidly once a paid game has been completed.

The Triple Diamond machine looks like it's ready to accept a coin and play normally (save for the fact that the fluorescent lamp on the door that lights up the reels is burnt out).  In fact, the "insert coin" lamp is on, so that's a good sign. 

What happens when you insert a coin? 

Do you have a sample coin in the Coin Comparator in the door?  If not, you need to put one in there.  If you do and coins are being rejected to the tray, you need to ensure that the sample coin is seated properly, and you may need to adjust the sensitivity of the comparator to make it less likely to reject coins.  Instructions on how to do so can be found by clicking here.

[rokgpsman]

......  I cannot pull the handle.....

…..Now Red white and blue.
This one does have dollar bill changer guts and the guts make noise like they searching for a dollar.  This noise persists several times before it stops……

I'm pretty sure the machine will not allow the handle to be pulled until it has accepted a coin, or you have credits on the machine from inserting a bill or previous wins and have pressed a button to make a bet.

When the machine is powered up it is normal for the bill acceptor to go thru its own initialization process. It will make motor and gear sounds during this time. This is actually a good sign, it might be working ok once you get other things fixed.

[cowboygames]

Having changed the battery the validator likely won't accept bills till it is "turned on" using a set chip. If you already have a sample coin installed and coins still drop through you might try cleaning the coin path through the comparitor and coin optics mounted below it

[elweedz]

knagl- looks like you might be on to something.   Pls see the pic.  I will replace/rework and let you know what i find.  Thanks.




Fixed font size issue.  -knagl

[therockinelvis]

That burnt connector is your problem on that machine. On your other machine you will see a very small white button just under the coin comparator. If you push it, it should give you a test credit and you can spin the reels using the "spin reels button" with the door open. If you are able to spin the reels with the door closed after giving it a test credit, let us know.

[elweedz]

First let me reiterate, i am stunned at the amount of support that i am getting.  I never imagined it would be such an overwhelming and quick response from all of you.  Having trouble keeping up with all the great suggestions in fact.   Thank you so much for the support.   Will be making a donation regardless of outcome. So i followed the burnt link thing and cleaned both contacts with sandpaper and then wd on a qtip.  When i powered back on (RWB), it did not spin the reels.  It did the dollar bill thing and now the two sirens are lit on this one.  Bottom blinking faster than the top.  The led first read "61" (see pic).  So i opened back up hit the reset button and the thing made a ding sound and now says 61  1 on the displays as shown.   Have not tried coin comparator ideas on either.  Just updating as i go.

[elweedz]

That burnt connector is your problem on that machine. On your other machine you will see a very small white button just under the coin comparator. If you push it, it should give you a test credit and you can spin the reels using the "spin reels button" with the door open. If you are able to spin the reels with the door closed after giving it a test credit, let us know.

Triple diamonds- hit white button.   Gives me credit.  Allows me to spin using arm or button.   Tells me coin accepted and one credit played.  Now only bottom siren is lit solid.  Wont do anything else new.

[therockinelvis]

trip diam probably has door optic problem not aligning. Put a piece of painter tape on the machine side and mark where the optic is then put a piece on the door side and mark that optic. Now close door and latch all the way down and check marks. Your 61-1 is waiting for you to close and latch door then turn jp key and should boot.

[elweedz]

k -making some progress


RWB- now works after clearing codes but only allows me to put three coins in before they all just pass thru.


Trip diamonds- i tried lining up door sensors, they seem lined up to me but dont know precision needed.  I dont remember how but i got it to cylcle thru a bunch of numbers on all the LED screens. It kept going until i stopped it.  Havent been able to duplicate it.   Currently has bottom siren light blinking.  Allows coins to pass thru.

[rickhunter]

RWB that is normal for an S+. It will only accept the number of coins totaling a max bet, unless you tokenize, which is not a common setup coming out of casinos.  The only way to typically rackup credits, is to either win them, or put them there through the validator.  You cannot accumulate credits by dropping coins, other than the next max play bet.


Trip Diamonds, do you have anything on the LED displays when you open/close the latch.  Do the reels spins, are they stiff to the touch or spin freely when the door is open?

[therockinelvis]

If you remove the reel glass you can line up the sensors good. There a 2 wires going to each sensor, are they both attached and plugged in?

[knagl]

RWB: As Rick said, that's normal behavior for the machine to only accept coins up to the maximum bet and then reject all others.  It sounds like that machine is working properly -- good job!   


Triple Diamond:

Hold on before you start removing the reel glass.  I don't think the optics are the problem here.

You can confirm if the door optics are working by telling us what happens when you close and latch the door.  In your picture of the Triple Diamond machine there's a "0" in the Coins Played LED display.  Watch that display as you close and latch the door.  If it goes blank for a second or two and then the "0" pops back up, that confirms that your door optics are working fine (typical behavior is for the displays to go blank for a second or two once the door is closed and latched, and the only thing that triggers that to happen is the door optics being aligned).

Trip diamonds- .... Currently has bottom siren light blinking.  Allows coins to pass thru.

Again, the bottom candle light blinking rapidly is just an indicator that the machine has recently been powered on and/or the door has been opened and a paid game hasn't been completed yet.  When you say that coins are "passing thru" -- are you saying that they're rejected back to the tray for the player to grab, or are they going through the machine and into the hopper?  If they're being rejected to the tray, I noticed in Reply #33 that you said you haven't yet adjusted the coin comparator.  Please follow the steps I suggested in Reply #28, specifically ensuring that the sample coin is seated properly, and adjusting the sensitivity so it is less likely to reject coins.


On a final note, in the future please consider starting separate threads for multiple machines -- it's a little tough to keep up with multiple machines in one thread.