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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #140 on: August 28, 2023, 10:10:35 PM »
Are those roll over cheaters I see on those disks?

Unfamiliar with that term.  :Scratch-Head:

I am assuming you are talking about the reels, and they have been remove, tossed out. In fact, the reels had the most issues, alignment from wear, missing rollers, pretty FUBAR before I sorted things out.  :yes:
The reel index disks are the thing I am referring to.
I saw this done at some small downtown casinos I managed for a short time.
Lets say the big payout for the game is 777.
They take one of the 7 spots and block the gap that would allow a 7 to lock in.
It is called a "roll over" cheat. There is no way the game will ever hit a 777 payout.
The index arm rolls over the blocked disk notch.
When I saw this on multiple games, plus the extra coin cheat, where an extra coin put in is stolen by the game via a bolt placed just right instead of rejecting the coin and dropping it back to the tray I got the hell out of there.

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IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #141 on: August 29, 2023, 06:38:57 AM »
yes, awaiting my EM tech arrival some day soon.
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #142 on: August 29, 2023, 06:51:42 AM »
yes, awaiting my EM tech arrival some day soon.

 :thank_you:  You be the man.  :thank_you:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #143 on: August 29, 2023, 12:16:39 PM »
I am hunting down wires. Wolftalk has me looking for the problem in the reel wiring.  :nerd:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #144 on: August 29, 2023, 12:17:56 PM »
Hunting down wires continued.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #145 on: August 29, 2023, 01:39:19 PM »
yes, awaiting my EM tech arrival some day soon.

 :thank_you:  You be the man.  :thank_you:
He wasn't much help. He said anytime the casino got a hopper in the first thing they did was to toss the covers.
Our shop has none, they were tossed out years ago. I asked our junk man to keep an eye out for a stray.

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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #146 on: August 29, 2023, 02:49:02 PM »
yes, awaiting my EM tech arrival some day soon.

 :thank_you:  You be the man.  :thank_you:
He wasn't much help. He said anytime the casino got a hopper in the first thing they did was to toss the covers.
Our shop has none, they were tossed out years ago. I asked our junk man to keep an eye out for a stray.

Alan

Thanks. I have one for the 1090 as a pattern. 😁
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #147 on: August 29, 2023, 02:58:13 PM »
 :dancing_party: With Wolftalk help I resolved one issue, the switch was dirty, nothing was getting through the switch. Now were good!  :applause:

New issue.
The handle release coil was not acting normal, struggling to unlock the arm. I have a store bought extra NOS one and put in when  :shitfan: hit the fan. The machine blew a fuse. Obviously something is amiss.

The number is F-31-2100, maybe it's not the correct coil, or the one that I put in was junk. More research needed, pull the books out and find the coil that belongs in the handle release coil..  :Scratch-Head:

Update:
OK everyone, it's the correct coil, now I need to locate one.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2023, 03:17:04 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PM »


Good news, I found another coil and installed it. The machine is running, shooting out coins, a major step today. I still have a long road ahead to go in getting this completed.

IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #149 on: August 30, 2023, 12:10:13 PM »
The reels are not working, totally FUBAR.  :hissyfit:
I have found the original index wheels which is most important.  :applause:
Now the reel tapes are next.  :Scratch-Head:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #150 on: August 30, 2023, 12:21:44 PM »
These are the index wheels, the outer part is the original names and depths of the characters.
The inner part is the replaced index wheels and you can see the difference between the 25¢ and the $1.00 index wheels.

I did this diagram, just in case I couldn't find the index wheels. My son has multi-million dollar computerized laser machines used for the space industry and he could manufacture these pretty quickly at his work.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2023, 12:52:51 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #151 on: August 30, 2023, 01:45:28 PM »
So, my plan is to keep working on the machine while sorting out the reels. I can keep working on the gremlins in the machine. I am going to focus on the coin advancement, and resolve the issue of it acting erratic.  :dancing_2:

The hopper that I built is running great.  :applause:
« Last Edit: August 30, 2023, 03:10:44 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #152 on: August 30, 2023, 04:32:09 PM »
The original reel tapes and the index wheels from 1977 are sourced.  :cheerleader: : :cheerleader:


Were zooming now!
« Last Edit: August 31, 2023, 05:40:34 AM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #153 on: August 31, 2023, 12:17:34 PM »
Another successful day. I started out with a intermittent advancement of the coin, found another switch on the step up unit that was a wanker. I think that I am getting better at this search out and find the issues.  :nerd: Of course Wolftalk gets 99% of the credit, he's been a great source of information.

BTW: I really want to know if the Bally factory hired midgets,  Oompa Loompa's, or Munchkins to work on these machines, you need tiny fingers to work on these machines, and I have gorilla fingers.  :rotfl:

« Last Edit: August 31, 2023, 12:42:12 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #154 on: August 31, 2023, 12:21:24 PM »
So, the coin lights are working great, they light up exactly the way it was intended.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2023, 12:42:44 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #155 on: August 31, 2023, 12:23:17 PM »
The kicker is that I am finding it harder to locate USA made bulbs.  :hissyfit:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2023, 12:28:44 PM »
I have the 25¢ reel tapes out, the $1 original 1977 ones are coming in.This was a great time to clean everything up, get the reel tape housing cleaned up. I noticed a red mark at the beginning of the reel tape housing. So I preserved it for now, I don't know if that is important or not.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2023, 12:34:58 PM »
The reel tape housings have the same red mark.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2023, 06:20:58 AM »
UPDATE
As of today, I have the reels to assemble and install. The change bowl assembly will need the Formica replaced, two meters for the reels and other small tasks. All of them are in the mail coming my way.

The #1 problem now is the hopper cover, I will probably have to manufacture it since I can't find one, I have an identical one in the other slot machine I own.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525

Offline David Walz

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  • It's an adventure owning Bally slot machines. :)
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Re: Bally 1114 full restoration
« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2023, 01:03:48 PM »
I am still working on systems check of the slot machine. Today I found another switch that needed adjusting. The scenario was the second coin would not advance properly, reset, in a nutshell. After the adjustment, everything is working excellent.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525

 

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