Author Topic: No diagrams for Bally 1096 (Read 15920 times)

lltvdoug · « **Reply #80 on:** February 21, 2018, 05:55:35 PM »

Quote from: GOS on February 21, 2018, 05:29:59 PM

there is also a circuit on the hopper - believe it is a green/white wire to a yellow that also controls the insert/accept/pay lights.

THANKS! I'll try it right now.

Amechanic · « **Reply #81 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:12:25 PM »

So are you down to just the 3 on the door? Coin insert, coin accepted and the $1.. If yes then I would look at your doors molex plugs. I would check for a bad connection at the plug or for a broken wire.

lltvdoug · « **Reply #82 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:50:30 PM »

Quote from: lltvdoug on February 21, 2018, 05:55:35 PM

Quote from: GOS on February 21, 2018, 05:29:59 PM
there is also a circuit on the hopper - believe it is a green/white wire to a yellow that also controls the insert/accept/pay lights.

THANKS! I'll try it right now.

Pulled the hopper & found circuit. Cleaned & checked all switches. No results.
Thanks, Doug

lltvdoug · « **Reply #83 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:56:37 PM »

Quote from: Amechanic on February 21, 2018, 06:12:25 PM

So are you down to just the 3 on the door? Coin insert, coin accepted and the $1.. If yes then I would look at your doors molex plugs. I would check for a bad connection at the plug or for a broken wire.

The $1.00 light works. It's insert, accepted, & winner paid. I have continuity through the Molex & beau plug to the coin switch, but no 6vac.

DavidLee · « **Reply #84 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:17:10 PM »

The solder tabs on the sockets will rotate.
Try moving them to see if that makes a difference.
Be careful not to move them onto the case or any other part of the machine that will cause a short to ground.

If that doesn't accomplishes anything, try jumping a good blue to a blue on the sockets that aren't working.
Cycle the machine, there may be an open just in that area.
While working in this area if all the 6 volt lights go out the fuse did its job.

lltvdoug · « **Reply #85 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:53:50 PM »

Still nothing.

DavidLee · « **Reply #86 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:58:10 PM »

Just checked a schematic for a 1088 machine.
One switch in the payout relay sends power to all three lights.
Will try and post a photo attachment

OldReno · « **Reply #87 on:** February 27, 2018, 01:55:50 PM »

David is correct, that is the 1 switch with all 3 lites in common.

GOS · « **Reply #88 on:** February 27, 2018, 02:55:22 PM »

that is the one I mentioned in an earlier post - on the hopper payout - green/? and yellow

Amechanic · « **Reply #89 on:** February 27, 2018, 04:30:23 PM »

A set of contacts can look to be working, but the only real way to know is to test them using your voltage meter. Use the resistance part of your meter. That way you can see if the connection is good or just looks good.

lltvdoug · « **Reply #90 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:01:12 PM »

Quote from: GOS on February 27, 2018, 02:55:22 PM

that is the one I mentioned in an earlier post - on the hopper payout - green/? and yellow

Thanks GOS!
I put a little more pressure on it, now insert works but accept is always lit.
With all this wire chasing I forgot to go back and tie everything up again. Big mistake!
I crunched the Molex behind the Handle & broke some wires. That will keep me busy tomorrow.

lltvdoug · « **Reply #91 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:02:45 PM »

BTW, You guys rock!

lltvdoug · « **Reply #92 on:** February 28, 2018, 07:40:58 PM »

Adjusted this switch (pencil in photo) on step up unit. That fixed the coin accepted light being always on. Got all wires fixed and tied up. Machine plays and pays as it should except that I think its supposed to de-energize the coin lock out after 3 coins. It will keep accepting coins into the hopper after 3. Step up advances on second & third coin, then just pulses with additional coins (hits deep cog).
Is this something I can fix? If not, we'll call it good and consider it finished.

Thanks again for all your help.

Amechanic · « **Reply #93 on:** February 28, 2018, 07:57:57 PM »

Remove you coin Mech and meter the scavenger coil to see if it's good. I have had machines where the wires were cut because of the buzzing noise they can make.

DavidLee · « **Reply #94 on:** February 28, 2018, 08:28:46 PM »

Check the yellow red wire contacts. They may need to be open on the third coin.

OldReno · « **Reply #95 on:** March 01, 2018, 08:46:07 AM »

Doug, your pic shows 4 sets of switches. 3 of those sets appear to be out of adjustment.
Check each set in turn to verify that it changes state during step up and reset of odds unit.
IOW, no set should stay open all the time or closed all the time.
The lockout coil behind the coin acceptor should turn off after max coins in & that is done by 2 sets of switches run in parallel.
One set is on your odds unit as shown, the other should be on your coin relay assembly.
This is one of the more interesting circuits in the Bally...if one is adjusted wrong it will accept all coins. If the other is wrong, it will accept max coins only one time & then reject coins until odds unit is manually reset by hand.
(Will explain this if interest)

DavidLee · « **Reply #96 on:** March 01, 2018, 10:04:24 AM »

Photos of coin lockout / odds step up from a 1088 for comparison.

I see your 31 and 58 wires are on the 2nd switch.
Could be the fact that its a Dollar machine.

I think a read that a $ machine works in the opposite when it comes to the coin lockout.
But verify to be sure.

Most likely will have to make multiple post due to photo size.

DavidLee · « **Reply #97 on:** March 01, 2018, 10:07:56 AM »

Odds Unit 1st, 2nd and third coin photos.

lltvdoug · « **Reply #98 on:** March 01, 2018, 04:59:28 PM »

The following photos show my 1,2,3 coin switch postions

lltvdoug · « **Reply #99 on:** March 01, 2018, 05:15:51 PM »

If you look at the photo from yesterday showing the step up switch you will see the accuator pin with some switches on the opposite side. I changed it back to make it as close to your photos as I could.
The enclosed photo shows the one switch that seems too far away to make close without being closed all the time.

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