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Upgrade from 501 board to 504 and S+ Board confusion
« on: April 30, 2024, 01:48:03 PM »
Is there any reason I should upgrade a 501 board to a 504 ?  It is running triple triple diamond.  I did notice the payout is on the board. Does that change with upgrading? 
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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2024, 03:49:39 PM »
The only reason would be for quieter audio if you were to use a MML2 sound board. You can change the payout in the menu. The board doesn't matter.
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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2024, 03:59:59 PM »
Thanks for the info.  Do you know what key and clear chip i would need to change payouts?

Still learning.  Thanks

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2024, 04:15:26 PM »
The key chip to use is KEY45. A clear chip should only be used to change accounting denomination. You would probably never need it. It's number is IVC224. Contact member RB here for the chips.
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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2024, 12:37:49 PM »
This board has a chip on it that say 97%.  Will the 00017 still work to change percentage?  Can you tell me if this is for sure a 501 board?  I am just going by what is written on it.  Is there a definitive guide on how to identify MPU boards?

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2024, 03:47:25 PM »
Your machine has an SB001000 and an S+ 97% SS chip on it.  You need either a different SS chip or the correct SB chip and the correct key chip to change payout %.  Key 17 is for game king.

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2024, 06:31:07 PM »
Is there a definitive guide on how to identify MPU boards?
Yeah...look at those two white rectangular labels on the circuit board.
One label is under the piggyback MML (MultiMedia Lite) board.
Look at the last three numbers.
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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2024, 08:54:18 PM »
That makes allot of sense.  I was looking at the old site today and i found the S+ bible and it listed triple triple diamond as an S+ game.  So as a neewbie, what does that mean?

I take it the SS chip changes the payout percentage on S+ boards?  What is the SB chip?

Will the Clear IVC224 and the Key 45 still work?  I have a 45 key on its way, but from what I am hearing is that it wont work with the current chipset.

If not could I upgrade the board? 

Did I mess something up when I used the 00017 key?  I still have the same problem from my other post where the reels start automatically after the 3rd quarter is dropped. This started after trying to use the 00017 key.

Sorry for all the questions.  I am just trying to make sense of how this all works.

Also, I asked in a prior comment if there is a definitive guide to the boards.  I think that was the wrong question.  What I meant to ask is if there a guide that lists the differences in each board and what chips they can use.   Like i didn't know until today you can use S+ on a S2000 board.

If there is documentation somewhere please point me in the right direction.  I feel bad asking these basic questions.

Thanks again for all your help,

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2024, 09:23:26 PM »
You should read some of this stuff...>>>

https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=21511.0
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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2024, 11:00:12 AM »
Thanks for the link.  I stayed up late last night reading all of threads.  I think the issue for me and others just getting into these machines, is how each chip controls the machine. My confusion has been that I have an S2000, but I didn't know it was running an S+ game. 

So I found (SB100062 Triple Triple Diamond) on ebay.  From what I read. I should be able just to remove the old SB001000 and the payout chip.  Install SB100062 keychip and I should be able to set all of the most parameters via a 00045 key including payout.  Is that correct?  Is a clear needed?

This link thread really helped me understand the difference between the old chips and the SB chips. 

https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=12514.0




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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2024, 11:38:11 AM »
Yes that is correct except SB100162 is 3CM trip trip diamond (not SB100062).  No need to clear.

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2024, 12:02:27 PM »
Okay now I am confused.  I noticed that the shop on ebay has 3 numbers for Triple Triple Diamond.

SB100062   Triple Triple Diamond
SB100161   TRIPLE TRIPLE DIAMOND
SB100162   TRIPLE TRIPLE DIAMOND

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2024, 12:16:45 PM »
SB100161 is 2CM, SB100162 is 3CM  I have no idea what game SB100062 is.

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Re: Upgrade from 501 board to 504 and S+ Board confusion
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2024, 02:09:12 PM »
Contact member RB he can help you out with the correct chip you need.

 

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