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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2015, 06:24:42 PM »
SS3343 is a Sizzling 7s 3 Coin Buy a Pay chip. I can't remember if Reel Detectives is a Buy A Pay game or not, I thought it was just a straight multiplier? I've only had one, and that was a while back. Post a pic of your glass so we can be sure and let you know the correct SB chip to get.

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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2015, 06:49:39 PM »
If the top prize is the progressive hit you can make it whatever starting value you want when you set up the spectrum's progressive. Set the starting value at $500.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 08:46:23 PM »
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2015, 09:02:09 PM »
So are you talking about a 2 coin pay is 500 on a reel detective. But it's only 250 on a Sizzling 7
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2015, 10:18:21 PM »
The top prize on a sizing 7 is 1000 coins or $259 it's a quarter game. The reel detective is $600 top prize you get 500 coins for 2 cons played. It's a buy a pay
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2015, 10:39:29 PM »
Payouts are identical.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 09:59:18 AM by RB »
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2015, 10:42:22 PM »
All we can really deduce from this is that the SS chip is an obvious backup (copy). He can go through the the menu to verify its SS3343, but if the pays don't match the reel hits, it doesn't really matter.

What are the suggestions on the SB he needs?
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2015, 10:45:05 PM »
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2015, 10:47:14 PM »
Quote from: RB on December 17, 2015, 10:45:05 PM
SB100087

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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2015, 11:03:37 PM »
What would cause the 777 to be treated like three detectives? and how to i fix this. I don't think a sizzling 7 chip is the same game.Is there a way to see whats on the contents of the chip? or diagnose it through the machine?
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2015, 04:04:38 AM »
Is it ground hog day? We were here already on the first page of this post.

That is what a clone is, the game chip does not know what the face glass is as long as the payouts are the same.

Triple 7s, Triple butterfly 7s and Triple Red hot 7s are another example of clones they all use the same SB chip ( not the same as yours)

Quote from: qbert on December 17, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
OK so what you have is a Sizzling 7s clone called Reel Detective. It also looks like it is an S2000 using an S+ chip set with an SB001000 and SS3343. My suggestion would be to get the S2000 chip set for a Sizzling 7s machine. That is replace the SB001000 with a SB100087 and remove the SS chip completely. By doing this you can also choose the odds of the machine without having to replace SS chips.
You will have to set the machine up again along with the progressive but it should solve all of your issues. (You should be close to an expert at this by now :yes:)
Please post a picture of your mpu board so we can see what SG chips and board type you have.
I'm not familiar enough with SS chip sets to know if what you have can be used.(apparently not the current SS you have now anyway)
Set your progressive and limits as previously discussed.
Accounting value anything under or equal to your coin value.
Rich
PS thanks RB for the clone information.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2015, 08:18:51 AM »
Trust all the people who have given their input, this is  a three coin buy a pay game.  all they did was to make different glass and reel strips  to create a new theme. if you compare the reel strips to the "reel detectives strips you will see they are identical, just different symbols (detective head) for the  sizzling sevens (flames on bottom of sevens ). 

Hope this explains the "cloning"

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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2015, 08:23:18 AM »
Trust me there is no modification Trump could have done IGT controls the chips and the data stored in them is heavily controlled by the gaming commission.
If you install the SB100087 your game will function perfectly.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2015, 08:26:40 AM »
How about this. You become a member of NLG and I will send you a SB free of charge including the postage.
PM me your address.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2015, 08:30:01 AM »
Quote from: qbert on December 18, 2015, 08:26:40 AM
How about this. You become a member of NLG and I will send you a SB free of charge including the postage.
PM me your address.

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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2015, 08:30:39 AM »
 I wanted to play the exact game that came from the trump plaza that's in my machine. Is there a way to fix my eprom?
I believe in menu 5 you can check the reels and payouts.
There has to be a simple fix, i mean it was working in the casino.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2015, 08:40:53 AM »
It will be the exact game it is a clone!!
Compare the front glass of your machine and the front glass of a Sizzling 7 the payouts are exactly the same.
Nothing else is in your chip. Your game is using S+ chips in an S2000 the only difference is it will now use an S2000 chip in a S2000 game.
I don't know how to explain this any differently.
The game chip does not know if it is playing a Sizzling 7 or a Reel Detective it plays them exactly the same way. They are the same game!!
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2015, 09:41:21 AM »
Quote from: acura123 on December 17, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
What would cause the 777 to be treated like three detectives? and how to i fix this.
You most likely configured your progressive incorrectly. 3C Sizz 7's has 2 levels of jackpots that can be enabled. I believe they are JP0 and JP1. 3 Sizzling 777 on a payline is one of them and three solid red 777 is the other. If you have the wrong JP level enabled (and you probably do), the jackpot will be awarded on the solid 777 hit.
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2015, 10:13:54 AM »
YOUR A GENIUS!!!!!! That's it!
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Re: IGT s2000 Reel Detective machine handpay lock up
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2015, 10:49:43 AM »
Reel StripsVirtual Stops
Reel 1Reel 2Reel 3Reel 1Reel 2Reel 3
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2
7772222777
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TBTBTB422377Blank
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7776333BlankBlankBlank
7
BlankBlankBlank7344BlankTBTB
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2B2B2B8444TBTBTB
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49181819DBDBBlank
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51181919DBBlankBlank
52181920DBBlankD
53192020BlankDD
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56202121DBlankBlank
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I copied the table and virtual table from the game and there is no  D D D in the virtual reels so I believe the jackpot table is set incorectly
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