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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2016, 01:20:46 PM »
Reading that post, it say's there is a Varta battery in top box. Does this mean there are 2 batteries since he has the 2032? Or maybe someone put a battery holder in place. Maybe check the traces at your battery to be sure your getting the 3 vdc to the board. Maybe bad solder job?
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2016, 03:56:13 PM »
Jim: that's a great link and I never knew that old site existed!  I'm definitely missing that one white plug and nothing in the machine to plug into it (of course).  I traced the other wires from the black boxes and they both plug into the board and are wired together that way.  Maybe those boards in the black boxes are bad?


therockinelvis: I REALLY wish there was a battery to replace in the upstairs but there is not a single one to be found.  I've torn it apart and back together twice and never saw one.


The other two batteries are good.  Re-soldered the 3.6 and it's reading full voltage.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2016, 04:41:30 PM »
Just a thought, all his wiring at the MB are all neat with new cable tie's. Does J4 need to be used for this or others wrapped up there.
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2016, 06:42:58 PM »
J4 was empty when I got this machine.  I plugged in the wire to it from the left box, but I don't know if it's needed.  And yeah, mine was tied up all neat too, until I started to trace those wires out.  Now it's a nice mess.


And thank you for that schematic!  Until now, I had no clue what most of those connectors were (even after reading the S+ manual).



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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2016, 05:38:21 AM »
J4 is for the counters and not needed for operation on an S+.

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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2016, 08:54:32 AM »
I guess it makes sense why those two black boxes aren't working.  They're plugged into the counter, printer and backlit reels.  The last two don't exist in my slot.  So at this point, there's no place to hook up the black boxes on the board.  I'm beginning to wonder if this machine ever worked at all!


I'm out of ideas, and I think I made a $500 mistake.


But I'm truly grateful for all of the support!  Thank you to everyone for your input.  At the very least, I learned quite a bit about IGT.


If anyone can come up with ideas, post 'em here and I'll be glad to try.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2016, 09:13:28 AM »
The nice thing about the S+ is that any game can be made into any other game.
If you are giving up you can always get a different set of glass / Strips etc and it will be a regular S+

With that said. I am sure this will interface the same as a barcrest as AC cling made game kits not S+
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2016, 12:16:59 PM »
No I don't wanna give up.  I'm just beaten, for now.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2016, 02:22:03 PM »
J5 is the meters. J4 is dcs whatever that is. Then there is the sdc at J9 whatever that is. Things are a little different for you because barcrest use's one box and your AC coin use's 2. I would think it has to know what the reels are doing to register bonus round.
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2016, 02:39:14 PM »
OK, I checked my Top Dollar and the wiring for the comm. board is plugged into J12(printer) as 3 yellow wires as seen in picture. Then it goes to a connector and becomes 6 wires that go to the comm. board. I also have something plugged into J13(progressive). I have no progressive and I did not trace where they went.
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2016, 03:37:57 PM »
J5 is the meters. J4 is dcs whatever that is.

Correct J5 is the meters. My mistake not for not looking at the print correctly.

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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2016, 05:40:39 PM »
Try moving your plug at J14 to J13. Do you have anything at J12?
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2016, 10:56:42 AM »
Try moving your plug at J14 to J13. Do you have anything at J12?


I can't switch those plugs.  J13 is 6-pin and J14 is 7pin.  Nothing is plugged in at J12.


Thank you for those photos!  That does help a little.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2016, 12:13:59 PM »
First let me start by saying, I have never owned one of these machines.
But I would look at the Com boards for communications. You stated that you got the machine to play, up to where it was expecting communications in the topbox and then threw the error code again. This tell me the Com boards are not sending/receiving proper signal. Could be from a missing connector or just no signal. When testing the Com board for signal, I would think you would need to perform this with the door closed. Try bypassing the optics and checking for the flashing LED lights as mentioned in post #53

I believe you are on the right track and will eventually get this machine up.
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2016, 06:17:23 PM »
Maybe check this guy  www.ohioriverslots.com . He has a couple Money Mad Martians, and Phoenix Gold.
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2016, 10:17:14 AM »
Xcllnt and thank you therockinelvis!  That's the first place I've seen that has those slots.  I'll get in touch with them, and if I can't figure it out, maybe I'll send it to 'em for repairs.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2016, 12:56:47 PM »
I remember seeing something about a different IGT S+ clear chip that totally cleared everything out.  I have an F760 and was looking around these forums for a different one, but can't seem to find it now.  Was wondering if anyone knows what it is.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2016, 01:15:56 PM »
There are lots of SET chips - Ie the SET 90 has lots of different options for progressives that are not available in earlier versions.

The clear chip is generally been static.

What is not clearing ?
The most common cause of things not clearing would be not using the clear chip properly.


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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2016, 01:29:00 PM »
You may be on to something about set chips. Looks like the 62 does barcrest, just don't know about AC/Coin

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SET004 -PE+ Set Denom/ Enable Validator
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Re: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2016, 03:33:45 PM »
What is not clearing ?
The most common cause of things not clearing would be not using the clear chip properly.


I was on the phone with Dennis (I think that was his name) from Westfield Slots and he told me that he vaguely remembers working on one of these machines a while back with the same issue.  He suggested to use a different clear chip as he said it wasn't a hardware issue for him.


therockinelvis: I don't know if any of those set chips would work on this box, but I suppose one of 'em is worth a try.


I was just trying to see if there was another clear chip I can use for this thing.  Kinda at the end of my rope.


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